you can understand how someone like vanessa williams, as incredibly beautiful as she is and was, wouldin racial terms. >> yes, a barrier was opened. but then there were people that were my own african-american contemporaries that said, well, it's not good enough, she's not dark enough, she looks like she could pass, she looks like she's mixed, it's not really a win for us. and that was actually more painful than the racism that i kind of anticipated from white people that said, you're not. this is my own community. >> any time you have a cultural shift and part of that cultural shift involves the question of race, there's going to be some vocal, try gent pushback. >> death threats, i had snipers on top of rooftops when i would do outdoor parades. at one particular parade i couldn't even be outside. i had to be inside the car because there were threats. >> she may have been accepted in terms of the pageant and the title she won, but that didn't mean that she was accepted throughout society. it's never a good idea in this society to be the first black anything. >> it is one thing to face