i don't really have -- i have much worse, if i had feelings with vannatter than i do with lange.a matter of fact, when the verdict was read, my biggest issue and i told all the lawyers there wouldn't be any celebrating i wanted to go after lange -- go after vannatter. it took everything i could not to go after this guy because i felt he was responsible for allowing somebody like mark fuhrman to be as out of control as he evidently was during the investigation of this case. >> tom, detective vannatter isn't here. he has died. he can't defend himself to o.j. simpson. i assume you have a response to o.j. on that? >> again, a typical sociopath at work. total denial. it's not me. it's everybody else. b.s., on and on and on. it's what you find a typical sociopath. >> he does accuse everybody but himself, doesn't he, john? everybody but himself. >> the other thing about the d.n.a., this would have been a strong homicide case if d.n.a. didn't exist at that time. show size, bloody tracks, blood on his left hand, the trail of blood going back, the fact that he would have had a key to the b

i don't really have -- i have much worse, if i had feelings with vannatter than i do with lange.ad, my biggest issue and i told all the lawyers there wouldn't be any celebrating i wanted to go after lange -- go after vannatter. it took everything i could not to go after this guy because i felt he was responsible for allowing somebody like mark fuhrman to be as out of control as he evidently was during the investigation of this case. >> tom, detective vannatter isn't here. he has died. he can't defend himself to o.j. simpson. i assume you have a response to o.j. on that? >> again, a typical sociopath at work. total denial. it's not me. it's everybody else. b.s., on and on and on. it's what you find a typical sociopath. >> he does accuse everybody but himself, doesn't he, john? everybody but himself. >> the other thing about the d.n.a., this would have been a strong homicide case if d.n.a. didn't exist at that time. show size, bloody tracks, blood on his left hand, the trail of blood going back, the fact that he would have had a key to the back gate. blood on the seat council ghats

. >> part of the problem the police were to cross examine as detective vannatter putting it in his pocketu put it in in an envelope that is even on the videotape. >> he didn't take it? >> he didn't put it in his pocket. >> that was the allegation. i am not challenging. i didn't mean to challenge you. i am saying that's what people said. >> there is no unanswered questions. there are no misreadings or anything else. i agree with what dr. baden said they over the blood evidence. there is a bunch of other stuff they could have used too but they over did the blood. >> all of these photographers were taken at the crime scene that day. photographs existed two hours later that showed all of the blood and where it waus and thee was no way to track the blood. >> did he have any injuries? >> he was very depressed. the murder had occurred a few days earlier but he hadn't been charged yet. he was hiding at the kardashians. as we were brought up to where oj was before he was arrested being hidden at the kardashian house. >> not kim father who was and old friend of oj's and his lawyer's. >> the father'

agreed to an interview with lange and his partner philip vannatter with no lawyer present. >> the datejune the 13th, 1994. we're right here with o.j. simpson. >> were you surprised that o.j. simpson agreed to an interview? >> it was a little surprising, especially when i looked at his hand and it was still bleeding and he had a band-aid on his left hand. how did you get the injury on your hand? >> i don't know. that's not the first. i know when i was in chicago, and all, but at the house i was just running around. >> how did you do it in chicago? >> i broke a glass, i just was -- one of you guys had just called me, and i was in the bathroom, and i just went bonkers for a little bit. >> is that how you cut it? >> it was cut before. but i think i just opened it again. i'm not sure. >> did he screw up? >> many times. i think there are 16 or 17 of them in there. >> so he was inconsistent? >> inconsistent in all the statements, lied about others. >> o.j., we have got sort of a problem. we've got some blood on and in your car. we've got some blood at your house. and ah, it's sort of a proble