some conservative philosophy but he advertised it to the public on the basis of its practical add vantedage. lower crime rates, lower inflation, not face things. i think a lot of today's reagan invokers don't follow his example. >> they are concerned with ideological purity and sort of i think, maintaining, you know, this standard. i mean he was an innovator? >> right. it goes to what ramesh was talking about where there is this difference between the tea party and the establishment. i mean so much of this is tactical and, you know, and a. . i. udinal. unfortunately, we have gotten to this place where a lot of our conservative standard bearers are the ones that came up with the ideas we ran on are much more concerned with these tactical fights than they are with, you know developing policy anymore. so it's, you know, an interesting thing. >> that's how you end up with the best season we had last time was where a lot of the time, it's a competition. who can say it louder? >> uh-huh. >> you can call it the party of goldwater versus the party of reagan liberty versus the party of actually talk