varley eastampton -- beverly upton can speak to the communities and a nonprofit agencies that have worked on this issue. a murder catalyzed the community to work together,. chairperson hur: please, we are trying to get this done. if you could keep torre and -- quite, that would help all of us. >> we take the position that one of the share of's duties is to work effectively with the community on an issue of vital importance. we believe his ability to do that is impaired by his domestic violence and ms. upton is being offered as an opinion witness to speak to that. commissioner studley: i have a question about expert no. 5. so to whether someone has played a part in the actual proceedings. cabriolet use as an expert on the issues that are being offered. you folks to do this all the time know better what the experts standard corporate really would be. >> i am not sure if that applies to chief still or specific as to the prosecutor. chairperson hur: would you like to address the question? >> i would like to express our objection to these witnesses and get to that particular witness. those one