were generally very friendly, nekrasov and shukshin, and shukshin read the gospel for the first time in your house, and after reading the gospel, vasily it’s an iron book, it’s still iron, it’s still standing, how in general is this how you feel about the book? i treat him very well with great interest, i believe that he is an extremely talented writer, an amazing actor, least of all a director for me. don't like his films? well, i like it, but it seems to me that the artistic expressiveness of his stories gives us some kind of insight into the soul. in everything there is an understanding of the russian soul , this kind of russian, but for me a writer, an amazing actor, then... even for some time i considered myself his student, although the way of my, so to speak, making cinema, it was different from his , in principle , it was difficult to repeat, it seems to me that klimov is a very good director, hiss, they have some kind of iron films, as he said, he said, an iron book, i would say iron films , they wrote, they went to victor, we called him vika, that's it always, vika, vika, two such young handsome men came to viktor platonovic