vasu: we think there is upside. the way the nick it is responding today, -- nikkei is responding today. perhaps the bank of japan will not increase interest rates in any significant way this year, even if it does once or twice, it won't do anything as aggressive as the fed. that is seen as a win for japanese equities. i think you have significant corporate governance reforms have taken place in japan the last several years. a weaker yen, is your monetary policy, corporate earnings, valuations, you put that together is still makes the case for more upside on japanese equities compared to u.s. equities. paul: just want to get more of your thoughts on the next moves for the bank of japan. to what degree is there a spanner in the works for the normalization for policy? vasu: it's still possible the bank of japan could lift rates in april. that's our best case. i don't think the gdp numbers hit expectations. don't expect them to continue to increase interest rates and a conservative fashion. i think they will hike rates