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nbc news correspondent vaughn hillyard joins us now. us through today's ceremony where you are in lower manhattan and some of the others? >> reporter: memorial services at each of those three locations, kate, here in new york city 2753 passed away killed here in new york city with the collapse of the trade centers. this morning you saw vice president kamala harris attend the 9/11 memorial service along with florida governor ron desantis, they were joined by new york governor kathy hochul as well as new york city mayor eric adams, and former mayors, michael bloomberg and rudy giuliani as well. at the pentagon, defense secretary lloyd austin was joined by the joint chiefs of staff chairman, mark milley to take part in the memorial service there. 125 people inside were remembered. and over in shanksville, pennsylvania, where flight 93 crashed after the heroic efforts of those passengers on board, second gentleman doug emhoff participated in a wreath laying ceremony to commemorate the 40 passengers and crew members who died. of course presi

i want to turn to nbc news vaughn hillyard, not far from world trade center.he candidates' plans? >> reporter: right, chris, governor ron desantis was just down the road here where we're standing here at the memorial where vice president kamala harris was commemorating the ceremony, alongside kathy hochul and new york city mayor adams. when you're talking about donald trump, it's not quite clear where he is today. we reached out to his campaign multiple times for information for his plans here on september 11th. we do know he put out a social media post, about a three-minute video in which he said the lives of those lost, their family members, will never be forgotten. i think it's important to note politically, we're now 22 years since the september 11, 2001 attacks, those speaks to it, for governor ron desantis, he in 2001 was in college at the time. in 2004, he'd go on to join the navy in which he served as a lawyer, not only serving time in guantanamo bay but iraq. will hurd, serving in the anti-terrorism unit. and then critical of the biden administration'

let's bring in nbc news correspondent vaughn hillyard to cover it all for us. we expecting today, vaughn? >> reporter: hey, good morning, ana, i think when we're talking about for donald trump here, it's much more dangerous to go before a jury and testify under oath than it is to come to events like these two events he'll be partaking in in washington, d.c. one is in front of the family research council. that's where we are now. it's led by evangelical tony perkins. this is a social conservative group. to give you an idea of what these two groups are. when you look at polling among evangelical workers in iowa and in south carolina and fox news polling from july, donald trump has more than 50% of support among white evangelicals. just a few moments ago, josh hawley, the senator from missouri got off stage in which he talked about masculinity and the importance for men to marry and to have children. you had the likes of jody hice, the former congressman from georgia talk about how this administration is undermining marriage in his words. from tony perkins, the emp

nbc's vaughn hillyard is there. what are we expecting from this visit tonight, vaughn?reporter: right, chris, this is an extension of politics and the labor movement in america. it's not lost on anybody when you go back to the '60s. rfk joining the likes of caesar chavez, to 1981 when ronald reagan fired 11,000 public workers, air traffic controllers who were out on strike and part of a union, and you come back here today. donald trump, he's not taking part in the second gop presidential debate tonight at the ronald reagan library in california. instead, he's going to be joined by workers here in macomb county, michigan, who are out on strike. to note, he is going to be speaking at a nonunion manufacturing plant. because for donald trump, this is not so much about being pro union as it is in his words about being pro worker. there's history of donald trump in his four years in office. when you look at the national labor relations board and the labor department under his administration, he gave greater power to employers, rolling back abilities for workers to unionize or

nbc's vaughn hillyard joins us from the pray, vote, stand event in washington, d.c.n the past, but we expect them to play in 2024's primary? >> reporter: right, i mean, if you go back to 2016, chris, they were key to propelling donald trump to the nomination. particularly in the state of south carolina where he handily defeated ted cruz and eliminated the concept that donald trump would not be able to win over evangelicals. over the last eight years we've consistently heard from those very voters that he delivered on the successes that he promised, particularly around the supreme court, nominating three conservatives to the supreme court who helped ultimately overturn overturn roe v. wade as well as decide on a litany of other cases that conservatives were keen and appreciative of. i want to let you hear from a few of the folks we talked to here, particularly tony perkins a long time social conservative leader. when i asked him about this race ahead, take a listen. >> the media and others, the left that continues to attack and thinks they're going to drive evangelica

joining us now, nbc's vaughn hillyard who's in dubuque, iowa, back with us carlos carbello.e question mark surrounding trump's iowa effort or lack thereof in that state. is this him listening to his critics? >> reporter: absolutely, donald trump other the course of the summer sparsely visited the state of iowa. this is one of five trips planned by the end of october. donald trump just on stage, he's about 30 minutes south of where we are in dubuque. this is the location of his second stop. where just on stage he told the crowd that he learned lessons from the first process eight years ago when he narrowly lost to senator ted cruz in the iowa caucus. for donald trump, this is notable here. he has an entirely new staff and operation here in the state. the folks coming to the network, filling out these commit to caucus cards. what happened eight years ago is the organization around donald trump, they galvanized, they were passionate, and they had a lot of folks, thousands of them, with cards like these. but ultimately in the final days of the campaign, it was the separation of

joining us now also, vaughn hillyard in rapid city, south dakota, and garrett haake.paign to react to this report? >> they're going to lean into it i expect, jose. they're going to continue to make the argument they made all along in all of these cases that they're purely political and this is an effort to get trump. i think what you're going to see and seeing it from some of the pro trump influencers are out there on special media, kind of the leading edge of his response to these kinds of things, is to point out how much further the special purpose grand jury tried to go in indicting additional people, including legislators, lindsey graham, kelly loeffler, and david perdue and they'll point to the footnote that ken dilanian was mentioning, one grand juror felt the actions were political and not legal in nature. that is the basis of every legal and political argument that donald trump made about all of the prosecutions against them and i think they're going to try to hammer that point, this is a political overreach, and they'll just try to draw that dotted line from

governor ron desantis down 13 points from july our intrepid reporters are on the trail for us vaughn hillyard ohio. you spoke with ramaswamy in depth, how is he carving out his space on the trail >> reporter: well, look, this is someone who voters didn't know at all they didn't know his name, let alone how to pronounce it a few months ago, and now he has raced past experienced politicians in the polls. and this is a guy who, you know, he's a businessman, not a politician where have we heard that before? he is a big fan of former president trump, and he is sort of approaching politics in the same way that we saw the former president approach it in 2015, 2016 he is really trying to get to voters directly creating a constant stream of content via podcast tv, he's talking to everyone in the media that he can, and he's really stirring up a lot of controversy with different comments that he's made he's taking hard line stances on policies like immigration, for example. he has proposed a plan to deport not only undocumented immigrants in the united states, but also their american born children who r

and nbc's vaughn hillyard and john kasich.some of the preparations and the expectations going into tonight's debate? >> well, all of these candidates understand that they are right now in a fight for second place. and they're trying to make up ground on the absent front-runner. i think we will see some of these candidates try to find ways to create contrast with donald trump, whether it be on the issue of abortion, where ron desantis and mike pence have both taken issue with the way that donald trump criticized the six-week ban that was passed in florida, in his recent interview on "meet the press," expect to see desantis and pence try to make some leeway there. you can see nikki haley try to mix it up with donald trump in absentia as well. she was the first to do that in the first debate, on several different issues. she's been critical of his stance on the government shutdown, for example, you can tie it back to the economic focus that you're likely to see in a fox business hosted debate. but for all these candidates there i

. >> vaughn hillyard is joining us now, he's in rapid city, south dakota, where trump will be landinge shortly for an event. vaughn, any early reaction there to this new report? what's the latest from team trump? >> right. we're waiting to hear from donald trump himself on his social media account. he will be here in south dakota for what amounts to essentially a rally. he will be joined alongside the south dakota gop who is actually hosting this event in rapid city, south dakota, as well as with governor here of south dakota kristi noem. for donald trump, this just speaks to the level of incoming. of course, the reveal of the special grand jury's report suggests there are other individuals who could have potentially faced indictments. but you're also looking at the fact here that in colorado, his attorneys in colorado have now filed a petition here this morning to move the challenge particularly around the disqualification clause, section 3 of the 14th amendment, which was filed by multiple voters in colorado to have donald trump's name removed from the ballot for having engaged in i

nbc news correspondent vaughn hillyard who's in rapid city, south dakota, where donald trump is holding a rally tonight. and "atlanta journal constitution" reporter greg blue stein along with legal analyst lisa rubin. let us starts with the would-bes here. senator lindsey graham is clearly the headline, ken dilanian, that he was somebody they considered potentially bringing charges against. remind us what lindsey graham had to do with the state of georgia. >> well, lindsey graham, even though he's a senator from south carolina, was involved in making calls presumably on donald trump's behalf and pressuring state officials and emailing and being involved in discussions as part of this general effort to investigate what we now know are bogus allegations of fraud in an effort to overturn the election. he claimed that he was acting as a u.s. senator concerned about irregularities. and one thing we noticed for that report is that there were more no votes against indicting lindsey graham than probably almost anybody else. so that's interesting. yeah, this is a rare peek behind the curtain, ka

joining us now, susan page, washington bureau chief and vaughn hillyard. away? >> what's notable, we are five months away from the south carolina primary. when you open up those numbers, you have tim scott and nikki haley. these are the two south carolinians. name i.d. is not an issue in that state. when you combine both of them together they are still 18 points behind donald trump. when you look at the polling numbers, 76% of those who responded that donald trump was their first pick, said they would vote for him next year. which means, he has 36% built in. that is when you look at what is a crowded field here still, difficulty seeing a path for anybody. i go back to tim scott and nikki haley. both of those individuals from south carolina, they have the same favorability ratings at donald trump here. one has got to build progress and build momentum. >> this is post four indictments. this is not an early poll. >> no. back in january, i was at the south carolina statehouse when donald trump was holding his first event as a presidential candidate this time ar

i want to bring in nbc's vaughn hillyard who follows the campaign, also with us former federal prosecutorhere is no doubt about this, being ric allowed donald trump to become famous, and that allowed him to run for president, and this judge just shot a massive hole through that story. what exactly could it mean for the future of trump's business, and could it have an impact on how his supporters see him? >> reporter: right, by and large we have seen his most loyal supporters, chris, be undeterred from the allegations of financial fraud against him. you'll recall donald trump himself settled for $25 million a lawsuit back in 2016 against him and trump university. but for those potentially persuadable republican voters in this primary or independent voters in a general election, it could make a difference because it hits at the core of who donald trump is, and the financial fraud that the judge lays out that donald trump engaged in hits at the core of who donald trump is, was and continues to be today and calls into question his actual self-worth. you know, when we're talking about the futu

joining us now with more is nbc's vaughn hillyard who joins us from a conservative summit in washingtonbc political analyst. he is the co-author of "the divider." vaughn, what's being the reaction from trump world and trump's primary rivals from what we just heard? >> reporter: right. much more of kristin's interview will be coming out in the days ahead and on "meet the press" on sunday. there was one part of her interview that he said he would be unlikely to pardon himself if he were to get back in the white house. the word "unlikely" is important because will herd responding saying that donald trump, the reason he is running is because he wants to be able to pardon himself. i think that's an important distinction. it was the use of the word "unlikely." but the other part of that clip you just heard is him saying he would testify under oath in the classified documents case that he did not order the delusion of the tapes. now, donald trump saying he will testify is a departure from his past proceedings. he did not testify or meet with investigators. he did not testify in front of the ja

nbc's vaughn hillyard is in south dakota ahead of the event. and matthew dowd is the former strategist for the bush campaign and a political analyst. vaughn, start us off with the latest news we're hearing. an endorsement coming from the governor, along with a possible audition for the position of vice president. >> reporter: right. let's just deal with the reality that we don't think mike pence is going to get offered that position a second go-around and suddenly deep states are not a question that folks are running away from right now, especially when you see how dominating donald trump is performing, because there's a recognition among some prominent republicans who are not in this presidential race that, yes, nikki haley and fellow governor ron desantis of florida, they may be interesting candidates, attractive candidates, but in four or five months they could be politically almost irrelevant. bring in kristi noem. we talked about her for months as a potential 2024 presidential contender herself. she declined to enter the race. she will be s

. >> let's talk about donald trump and bring in vaughn hillyard.is in south dakota ahead of a trump event there this weekend. i gotta wonder what's going through the former president's mind right now. he is always concerned about loyalty. is he going to see this list and wonder what the individuals who weren't indicted may have told prosecutors? >> reporter: that's absolutely part of the speculation. david perdue was not indicted. he was donald trump's endorsed candidate to try to take down governor brian kemp in last year's republican primary. david perdue failed. but for donald trump, he put a lot of faith in these individuals. what you have also seen is those who were indicted have questioned whether there will be financial support from donald trump and his political organizations. so far, they have not seen any support. last night, donald trump did hold a fund-raiser at his private club in bedminster for specifically rudy giuliani alongside the former new york mayor who was indicted in georgia. i'm told by an ally of donald trump that in fact t

and our colleague, nbc's vaughn hillyard, asked donald trump about his comment last night.e a listen to that. >> general milley, what he did, it's really treasonous. you look at what he said to china, he's either stupid or it's treason. >> there are many people that would call it treason. >> but why suggest death? >> thank you very much. >> how much do you think it's gonna play to judge chutkan's decision on whether to issue a gag order? >> i think immensely. the crux of the court filing by special prosecutors last night, that since, that initial -- to prevent trump from continuing to attack them, attacking the judge, attacking trial witnesses. trump has continued to malign and call into question the witnesses that testified against him. this really cuts to the heart of what the administration of justice and criminal trial is all about. and judge chutkan has previously warned trump's lawyers, if he continues to be making incendiary remarks, filtering a trial date up. might have to impose some sort of restrictive order under the ability to discuss the case. i think we're ver

joining us now from clinton township, michigan, where donald trump will be, nbc news correspondent vaughn hillyardi mean, in michigan in 2016, union workers went for donald trump. workers went for donald trump. it's part of the reason why we won. in 2020, they went for joe biden. the union leadership is very much against donald trump. do you feel that there's the same sort of split in your conversations today? obviously that's what donald trump's going for. >> reporter: yeah, and i'll let you just listen to a few of the voters and workers that are on strike that we talked to, and let's talk about it on the backside, take a listen. >> i would like to hear him, you know, talk about, you know, let's get a deal done. >> unless he's giving free places for his hotel in vegas, i could care less. >> taking attention from what he's trying to do. >> you can't bad mouth, and come back and say, okay, then, i want your guys' support. i'm not dogging on any president, but i'm just saying, a lot of things you say in the past will come back and haunt you. >> i think he just wants to show his face and say that, he

nbc's vaughn hillyard in detroit for us this morning, thanks so much. >>> rev, we have a contrast of. tuesday, president of the united states on the picket line with auto workers. donald trump at a non-union shop last night saying, i'll take the support of the union workers, probably upset they were hanging out with biden. the detroit news was at trump's event, going up to people holding union workers for trump signs, saying, are you a union worker? no, i'm not, actually. another said, union auto workers for trump. are you? no, i'm not an auto worker. who knows who was in the invitation only room. what's your sense of the contrast that biden was trying to draw this week? >> first of all, i don't know why we'd be shocked that he would defraud the public, people with sigs saying they were union workers when they weren't. when a judge said he defrauded insurance companies and banks out of literally billions of dollars. it only reaffirms his fraudster status. i think, though, when you see the contrast, you have joe biden on a picket line, first time in american history a president of the

and vaughn hillyard is live in summerville, south carolina, where there will be a campaign event latercans' anti-trump effort flounders as the former president cruises ahead." >> vaughn, i seem to hear two things from phone calls coming in, especially this weekend. one, republicans still trying to figure out how to get rid of donald trump and put somebody else, whether it's tim scott or nikki haley in his place, and democrats just fretting about joe biden. it's fascinating that you have sort of the, you know, establishment class both very unsettled about the candidates that their party is most likely going to be nominating. >> reporter: right. when we look at the republican side of this, joe, we've had this conversation for months now. dating back to november of last year, ten months ago, when donald trump first entered the race, what was the anti-trump effort going to look like within the republican party? fast forward ten months later. we are here in september of 2023. less than four months until the iowa caucus, that anti-trump effort within the gop, it's fragmented, it's weakened,

let's bring in vaughn hillyard live in des moines and was at yesterday's event. >> reporter: for allfocus on an ever increasing executive branch that's why yesterday's immigration rollout of his latest policy proposal is notable, suggesting that he would go back to an eisenhower era deportation plan of course, back in the 1950s, that was known in a derogatory term as operation wetback, in which a million and a half mexican nationals were deported from u.s. soil perhaps the most notable proposal of donald trump was the potential invoking of a law that is already on the books that would hand the president unilateral power to deport individuals who are non-citizens over the age of 14 take a listen to donald trump last night >> we'll carry out the largest domestic deportation operation in american history. and i'll also invoke immediately the alien enemies act to remove all known or suspected gang members. we have tremendous numbers of gang members, ms-13, the worst gangs in the world, they say, the drug dealers, the cartel members from the united states ending the scourge of illegal ali