that is why we had ended up between 8 to 9000 pieces of community evidence for vbg and a.j. and his team acknowledged that they had never seen. i've worked with another district in the country with the number of community evidence because of the dozen cacs that we had in place that had already we looked and examined their reports, let's say, over the last two years. so that's one aspect of, i would say to name around, um, how where we want to put it within the rubric another. so that's one aspect. and the other aspect that we've heard, and i just finished up a nine month process of, of um, communications when it comes to parents with families from birth through five. and we've had some really amazing learnings there that realistically, not one size fits all when we communicate with our families. and we know that. so that is why the surveys is that is why interviews, the interviews has actually been a really key, um, aspect in this nine month process that that the department underwent. so i'm curious because that may not necessarily have been a strategy we've had in the past.