plus, join in the conversation program,ve call-in "washington journal." heidi shierholz, former chief economist at the u.s. department of labor earned the obama administration from 2013 to 2017. now with the economic policy institute. thank you for joining us this morning. >> thanks for having me. host: wanted to talk about the impact of the pandemic on workers. what do you see? >> it's pretty grim. it's really bad right now. so as of mid april, the official unemployment rate had jumped to 14.7%. but because of some misclassification and undercounting of people who had lost their jobs as a result of the virus, i think that a more accurate description of where we were in mid april is more like a 23.5% unemployment rate. and we've had another five weeks of deterioration since then so it's pretty grim. really sachs which has a good economics research shop, they are forecasting that the unemployment rate average 30% in may and june. so it's going to get worse before it gets better. it's pretty grim for workers out there right now. host: phone numbers at the b

but at least 20 conservative backbench mps ve joined opposition in public calls for mr.ummings to resign. >> so many people have expressed their concern on the manner in which mr. cummings already behaved, which is understandable. but the way he flouted his own rules, there are thousands of people all over the country had childcare problems, with real fury and anger from constituents across the political spectrum, from across the different professions and jobs, that are absolutely furious that they have abided by the rules and regulations as i urged them to do, as the government tell them to do, to save the nh s and save lives and keep people safe. and they feel they've really been taken for fools. >> i always thought dominic should be kept out of number 10, i'm sorry to say, and i think this will just keep rolling on and getti worse until he goes. anchor: joining us as our political correspondent. did he do the job intended, do you think? >> a big question, you don't hold back, do you? i guess a simple way to answer it is, i think those people who think what mr. cumming

the daily telegraph leads on ve day commemorations, with a call from opposition leader sir keir starmer saying, "we owe it to the ve generation to protect them from the virus inp smiling through" — that's the headline on the daily express, splashed across a re—coloured picture of britain celebrating victory day 75 years ago. according to the daily mail, prince andrew is being sued for £61; million — almost $8 million — that he allegedly owes for a share in a ski chalet in the swiss alps. the prime minister of france eduard philippe is pictured on the front page of le figaro, after he announced france's careful plans to ease lockdown restrictions from monday. meanwhile, "india relaxes and pays a price" — that's the headline on the new york times, as india's looser rules on coronavirus have led to a spike in deaths in some areas. and on the front page of germany's frankfurter allgemeine, the simple headline "wounds of war". the paper reflects, 75 years after europe's formal acceptance of nazi germany's world war ii surrender. so let's begin... matt, kezia, welcome again. matt, cani matt, kezia, welcome again. matt, can i start with you. because i was on last ni

daily telegraph leads on ve day commemorations, with a call from the opposition leader sir keir starmer, saying "we owe it" to the ve generation to protect them from the virus inare homes. "keep smiling through" — the headline in the express, splashed across a re—coloured picture of britain celebrating ve day 75 years ago. the sun plays on the ve day theme again. "give it back" — calling on the fundraising website justgiving, which profited over £300,000 thanks to captain tom moore's fundraising efforts for the nhs. which has raised, what, £33 million or more now, i think? according to the daily mail, prince andrew is being sued for £6.4 million that he allegedly owes for a share in a ski chalet in the swiss alps. welcome back, both of you, again. let's start with the times. and picking up as we will come to it in a minute, actually, on the guardian front page. all those stories, matt, today in the papers saying happy monday, lifting of restrictions, whatever. a complete lead from message today for buy is that? was the message overwritten in the past 24 the message overwritten in the past 2a hours or as number ten been briefing badly? i think route ten we re b

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in a so—called red zone. in the us, 33 million people have lost their jobs since the middle of march, another 3 million in the last week alone. music. the ve anniversary — celebrating europe's formal acceptance of nazi germany's surrender. no big parades this year. we'll mark it in homes and backyards instead. hello, and welcome to audiences in the uk and around the world. we're covering all the latest coronavirus developments here in britain and globally. and we start in the uk, where there's been a major economic warning today from the bank of england. the governor says the country is heading towards its sharpest recession on record. andrew bailey says it will take time for the economy to recover once restrictions are relaxed. here's our economics editor faisal islam. at east midlands airport, there may be no passenger planes right now, but cargo carries on. the pandemic means new patterns in the goods being traded back and forth as the world's major economies face recession. it's unfolding in front of our eyes, but at the end of the day, planes are still leaving certain origins and arriving at certain destinations. but it's somewhat mor

cross-border gunrunning operation resulted in the death of american border patrol agent, his family calling for an honest investigation. they join us live. ve shoppers. we laughed with you. sprinkles are for winners. we surprised you. on occasion, we've probably even annoyed you. we've done this all with one thing in mind. to help protect the things you love. and if we can't offer you the best price we'll help you find a better one. it's not always the lowest! even if it's not with us. that's how we've done it for the past 80 years. not just today, or this month, but always. jillian: pumping the brakes, the federal judge overseeing michael flynn's case delaying the justice department effort to drop it by allowing third parties to weigh in. rob: griff jenkins live in washington in anticipation is building whether the d and i will release the list of obama era officials behind the unmasking of the former national security adviser. >> reporter: we may soon see those names but we won't see a end to the flynn case anytime soon. an unusual move given the doj abandoned the effort saying they should offer their opinions, ordering the court to accep

in a so—called red zone. in the us, 33 million people have lost their jobs since the middle of march, another 3 million in the last week alone. music. the ve this year. we'll mark it in homes and backyards instead. hello, and welcome to audiences in the uk and around the world. we're covering all the latest coronavirus developments here in britain and globally.

in paris. he's called on people to hang the colours of the french flag from their windows and balconies. a moment of shared european history remembered today in isolation. and we'll return to ve a few minutes' time. i will be speaking to a veteran of that period serving in the royal navy at the time of ve day. we are bringing you some more updates about the coronavirus. the welsh first minister, mark drakeford, has announced that all stay at home regulations must stay in place for another three weeks, but that there are three modest changes to coronavirus restrictions in wales. first will be to the once—a—day exercise rule. because the more we learn about coronavirus, the evidence shows us that the risk of infection is reduced outdoors. we will adjust our regulations to allow people to be able to go outside to exercise more than once per day, but we will strengthen our regulations to make it clear that that exercise must be local. it should begin and end at home, and it should not involve any significant travel away from home. our second planned change to the regulations will be to allow garden centres to open, provided that the two metre social distancing rules can be applie

breaches of the in lockdown rules at the weekend with people traveling to beauty destinations having birthday and ve day parties and some pubs even reopening synchrony senior officers also called for clarification of police responsibilities on a body representing officers in the capital said the government's pandemic response was wishy washy and is joined by a former police officer and policing expert peter williams it told me that there must be legislation to enforce rules such as social distancing. because the police to enforce these rules if actively do need the cooperation of the public and the vast majority of the political during us as we know the recall you'll just refer to. is only highlighting the minority of breaches of the so-called socialists amarilly what's the problem for the police officers because obviously there's this view particularly capital that the regulations are wishy washy but of course the government has clarified what's acceptable some bathing meeting one other person with a 2 metre distance i mean if that's all common sense and that makes things easier or harder for the police. well it's all about applying common sense if you look in the college of

ve day, as my colleague reeta chakra barti explains. meetjohn counsell, the british army colonel who played a pivotal role in ending world war ii. an actor and theatre manager, in 1940 he was calledto the theatre of war. but army life, his twin daughters told me, wasn't for him. what sort of soldier was he? inept, i think the word would be. his battery commander said that he was the worst soldier he had ever come across. jenny and eizabeth were small children at the time. theirfather, despite being a poor soldier, was a good writer, and was propelled into ghost writing official reports for the allied commander general eisenhower. newsreel: nazism was crushed in the rubble of german cities. by the spring of 1945, with germany overpowered and hitler dead, the country's surrender was inevitable. the momentous tasks of drafting the surrender document fell to john counsell. he was ordered to go away and write a document in an hour—and—a—half, for the germans to sign, top secret. 0nly he and the stenographers, as he called then, the typists, should know about it. so off he went, and rather stunned, sat down at his desk. extraordinary, what a huge responsibility. yes, at first he really

called a wraparound front page, front and back. rachel cunliffe, did you watch the queen's speech? i did not, i'm afraid, because i was having a toast in the garden to the vesort of personal lockdown celebration, but we have just gone back and wash it out and read the quotes. just like the earlier coronavirus address that she did, back in march or early april, it was really just did, back in march or early april, it was reallyjust getting the tone spot on. ijust think it is so moving and emotional to have a monarch at this time who was alive and can remember, was there 75 years ago, and to have her mirroring the exact beach that her father gave all those years ago —— exact speech. it's a way of reaching back to the past and its that connection for many of us who feel really, really strongly about what was done for us back then. it's really nice to have that link back with the past with her majesty. jason, let's look at the daily telegraph, which features the daily telegraph, which features the queen on the front page, with that quote. i suppose one of the interesting things is the queen, although she is 94, she is in seclusion but she is actually speaking

grew up in the bay area honored with a ve >>> a very special delivery honoring a sacramento police officer and bay area native tara o'sullivan was killed while responding to a domestic violence call last june. her family keeping her memory alive, ordering 1000 donors and delivering them to her law enforcement family. donuts, her favorite thing to eat. today would have been her 27th birthday. >> she loved to run. she loved to work out, but that girl would never turn down a doughnut. >> police officers say that they are honored that they chose to spend her special day with them during these uncertain times. >>> celebrities are teaming up for a charity reading of james and the giant peach by roald dahl. >> it's a peach. >> cliffhanger. >> you interrupted him. >> filmmaker -- voices along with meryl streep and kate blanchet. >>> time now to recognize some of our bay area graduates, giving a daily shout out to the class of 2020. >> austin valentine graduating from washington high school. austin is going to play basketball for the cal state university warriors. he wants to pursue eighth career in law enforcement. >>> jessica cabrera moving up from san lorenzo middle school to san loren

ve been invoed in humanitarianelief work now for more than a decade. saw you making rescues yourself in new orans during hurricane katrina. and you spent months in haiti after that devastating earthquake in 20. called community organizedprofit relief effort right there on your shirt, core, which is on the front lines of the current covid-19 pandemic. ani am grateful that you are joining me. >> good to be here. >> listen, did you ever in your ldest imagination thk that you would be administeringr humanitariief aid in your own hometown, los angeles, california? >> no, not at all. it's a real adjustment to make psychogically. when we're working overseas, and particularly in what are typically considered third-world countries, and you get a text m from a friend, you just immediately say n the field, will call back later." to consider being in your own hometown and thinking of that as "in the field" is a very -- it is an odd paradigm shift. >> so, your organization, core, has decided to focus on testing anyou're on the front lines offering free dre-through testing to the country's most vulnerable populations. first, how did you focus on testing? why did you pick that ea to focus on? the morning that w c

my grandfather served in both theaters he was in the navy during the europe conflict and when they decided they were going to call it quits, ve day, he transferred over to the united states marine corp so he could go to the -- what do you call it, the pacific theater, and he actually seen action and thank god he come home to us. and he served in two different branches of the service and two theaters of war. >> okay, robert, any specific question or other comment? >> well i had a question for him. is it true that during the second world war they had a secret group of nazis to make a forth rikt after the war. >> i'm sorry, i didn't hear that. >> a fourth rikt. >> well there were certainly good nazis who got away. who escaped either the hangman or prison for some sort of accounting. some of them famously went to south america. and there were a few who had ambitions of somehow either reconstituting the german richt or keeping alive the spirit of the richt for adolf hitler. these are a fringe group, not to be taken seriously. a great concern is not those who escape justice and those who may have had ambitions to pull together the

ve day, as my colleague reeta chakra barti explains. meetjohn counsell, the british army colonel who played a pivotal role in ending world war ii. an actor and theatre manager, in 19110 he was called, wasn't for him. what sort of soldier was he? inept, i think the word would be. his battery commander said that he was the worst soldier he had ever come across. jenny and eizabeth were small children at the time. theirfather, despite being a poor soldier, was a good writer, and was propelled into ghost writing official reports for the allied commander general eisenhower. newsreel: nazism was crushed in the rubble of german cities. by the spring of 1945, with germany overpowered and hitler dead, the country's surrender was inevitable. the momentous tasks of drafting the surrender document fell to john counsell. he was ordered to go away and write a document in an hour—and—a—half, for the germans to sign, top secret. only he and the stenographers, as he called then, the typists, should know about it. so off he went, and rather stunned, sat down a his desk. sat down at his desk. extraordinary, what a huge responsibility. yes, at first he really didn't know what to put, apart from act of

destinations having birthday and ve day parties and some pubs even reopening secretly senior officers also call for clarification of police responsibilities one a body representing officers in the capital said the government's pandemic response was a wishy washy when he was joined by a former police officer and policing expert peter williams he told me that there must be legislation to enforce rules such as social distancing because the police to force these rules exactly do need to corporation of the public and the vast majority of that little during us as we know the recall you'll have just referred to. is only highlighting the minority of breaches of the local show she just say i'm really what's the problem for the police officers because obviously there's this view particularly capital that the regulations are wishy washy but of course the government has clarified what's acceptable some bathing meeting one other person with a 2 metre distance i mean it that's all common sense and that makes things easier or harder for the police. well it's all about applying common sense if you look on the college of police insight in reference to. anything to do with these regulations

events, we have to, what i call, beat down the hate, bringing frankly love and systems that actually help people understand that wee all humans. we're in this together. we ve to actually fight to insure that our country continues to strive and accelerate. so that's the message i tell them. i want them to focus on education, focus on s.t.e.m., doing things thereat are the right elements around human rights and justice in the country that we live in. and i hope that that message resonates with them, and i frankly hopefully have given them an opportunity to do it without the burden of debt that gives them a chance to now express their best severals in the work they do. >> robert smith, thanks for coming on "meet the press," sharing your views on how we can move forward after this pandemic is behind us. much appreciated. thank you, sir. >> thank you for inviting me. >>> when we come back -- >> it has been an absolute chaoticdisaster, when that mindset of what's in for me and to heck with everybody else, when that mindset is operationalized in our government. >> former president obama's harsh words for president there are times when our need to connect really m

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ve day, as my colleague reeta chakrabarti explains. meetjohn counsell, the british army colonel who played a pivotal role in ending world war ii. an actor and theatre manager, in 1940, he was called't for him. what sort of soldier was he? inept, i think the word would be. his battery commander said that he was the worst soldier he'd ever come across. jenny and elizabeth were small children at the time. theirfather, despite being a poor soldier, was a good writer, and was propelled into ghost writing official reports for the allied commander general eisenhower. newsreel: nazism was crushed in the rubble of german cities. by the spring of 1945, with germany overpowered and hitler dead, the country's surrender was inevitable. the momentous task of drafting the surrender document fell to john counsell. he was ordered to go away and write a document in 1.5 hours for the germans to sign, top secret, only he and the stenographers, as he called then, the typists, should know about it. so off he went, and rather stunned, sat down at his desk. extraordinary — what a huge responsibility. yes, at first, he really didn't know what to put, apart from act of military surrender. and then he reme

called for criminal charges against a white policeman, after a black man died in custody. george floyd pleaded he coul not breathe when the officer pressed a knee to his neck. four officers ven fired, but there were new protests overnight. we will get much more, after the news summary. in hong kong, thousands of people protested today against curtailing civil liberties. police fired pepper pellets and arrested 360 demonstrators, who condemned efforts toutlaw disrespector china's national anthem. meanwhile, u.s. secretary of state mike pompeo declared hong kong may no longer qualify for special trade benefits. we will return to this story as well, later in the program. president trump is bashing social media after twitter slapped fact-check warnings on two of his posts. he had alleged, without proof, that mail-in voting is "rife with fraud." today, he accused big tech companies of anti-conservative bias, and warned, "we will strongly regulate or close them down!" any such action would likely require congressional approval. democratic presidential candidate joe biden has stepped up criticism of the president for refusing to wear a mask in public. the former vice president had

called the enduring sweetheart and is by the artist dan llywelyn hall. it has been commissioned to raise funds for the dame vera lynn children's charity. tomorrow marks 75 years since ve day, the day victory inldier, during the war. "darling, please be careful of those flying bombs. i'm so worried about you. everything is ok with me, dear, and there is nothing i want you to send me...unless you could get mum to wrap you up in a neat parcel, label it with utmost care and send it to me, urgent." "my dearestjoe, i heard one of your songs on the radio at lunchtime. i remember when you used to sing it to me and sometimes play it on the gramophone at home and we'd dance together, darling. i would love to be dancing with you just now. " the words of lovestruck newlyweds, married in 1944 and kept apart by conflict. but through more than 700 letters, joe and audrey gerrans were never far from each other‘s thoughts. and i wrote everything in those letters. i mean, people would say, "what the hell do you write about every day?" because some of them were 17 and 18 pages long! and joe used to say it was as if i was in the next room, he never, ever thought he was apart from me. joe was a talented football

dame vera lynn has been unveiled to mark the 75th anniversary of ve day — the day victory in europe was secured. the oil painting is called on today but things are now warming up, and that's going to be the theme over the next few days. those temperatures will be on the rise, quite a bit of warm and sunny weather around, but also a few showers. and if you do catch some of the showers, they could be heavy and potentially thundery as well. but high pressure still in charge, just drifting off towards the east, allowing a couple of weather fronts to affect western parts of the uk at times today and tomorrow as well. a bit more cloud through parts of northern ireland, western scotland, the western fringes of wales and south—west england as well. the odd shower around here, but further east across england, wales, scotland too, you should keep blue sky and temperatures in the warmer spots up to 22 or 23. down to the south east, typically 17—20 celsius. but as temperatures build, heavy showers developing in south wales, parts of the midlands, east anglia, which may well see the odd rumble of thunder this evening and tonight. temp

tells the cabinet the reason why he called the announcement on the 7th of may was he decided to cancel to save stalin from uncle joe. thank you forjoining us on ve day. inplans to mark ve day this year have changed drastically, but st paul's is still marking the anniversary. with me is the very reverend dr david ison who is the dean of st paul's cathedral. also, tom daggett from the choir of the nation project at st paul's. give us a flavour of what was happening in and around saint pauls on ve day 1945? they had got the choristers back from school in truro to sing something but they did not know what would happen, they had only planned one service at 8pm. 35,000 people in the day turned up at saint pauls which is why they had to do ten services back to back. the choristers went out on to the gallery, because, they could not go to sleep, it was so noisy, to look over london and see the millie innes out on the streets on ve day evening. that need to come together to commemorate is something people are feeling today —— to see the millions. how are you marking today given the measures in place? we can't do all the things we planned, bell ringing, no specia

call. also this morning... we'll meet the woman, who went to a ve day street party in 1945, and now finds herself on a new royalhas "past the peak" of coronavirus and can see light at the end of the tunnel. in his first daily briefing since he recovered with covid—19, mrjohnson promised to reveal a detailed plan next week for how the government will ease the restrictions. he said facemasks will bea restrictions. he said facemasks will be a useful part of the strategy. most people in the uk would not want to go out, even if the government officially ends the lockdown soon, according to a new survey. 60% of those asked said they would be uncomfortable about going to bars and restaurants or using public transport. and more than 40% would still be reluctant to go shopping or send their children to school, according to the poll by ipsos mori. us president donald trump says he's seen evidence that suggests coronavirus originated in a chinese laboratory. his claim — made in a press briefing overnight — contradicts a statement by his country's own intelligence agencies, which said that covid—19 was not man—made. china

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