to enlightenment; it won't get you there - you have to do all the rest of - you have to study the vedanta, you have to do the rest of these things. >> exactly, i mean, we have a holistic view, and of course, most people focus on yoga and some of the unusual activities, but that's the idea here, that we're looking at a path that's going to transform us. and it's back to that personal transformation idea that we've looked at - i mean, that's one of the keys behind religion is to move from one place to a more wide open, or fulfilled - or whole or unify - those terms that keep coming up over and over again. so yeah, you're quite right; you have to have a complete commitment to the path. but we'll be seeing that, throughout the semester - this is really our first touch on a major world religion to ask these questions of. but we're going to find out in the believers. the ones that are making religion work for them are the ones that have put that kind of commitment into it. i mean, i've always found that about religion - it's a two-way avenue, a two-way street, but you've got to bring something