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hopefully they will get to ask them. >> well, colonel veneman, i did read a -- write about him, i reades of hit transcript, so body had to. you remember he was celebrated in the press. this is almost a heroic performance, going and telling truth to the committee. lou: full military dress uniform. >> yeah. lou: he did cut a heroic figure. >> he is an active duty lieutenant colonel in u.s. army. lou: who does not wear a uniform in the course of his detached duty at the white house. >> not atlanta whit at the white is entitled to do so. lou: no, a variety of his attire. >> and it drove democrats craze in 1980s when oliver north wore his dress uniform to testify. lou: long memories. >> in the iran contra matter, if you can do it do you it. anyway, his testimony there were a number of problems, he did not have anything new to add to the investigation. his -- >> why was that? because, he was first witness to have actually listened to the phone call. and he vouched for the accuracy of the rough transcript of the phone call. lou: he vouched for the transcript of the -- oh, my goodness. >> he s
hopefully they will get to ask them. >> well, colonel veneman, i did read a -- write about him, i reades of hit transcript, so body had to. you remember he was celebrated in the press. this is almost a heroic performance, going and telling truth to the committee. lou: full military dress uniform. >> yeah. lou: he did cut a heroic figure. >> he is an active duty lieutenant colonel in u.s. army. lou: who does not wear a uniform in the course of his detached duty at the white...
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summon and mulvaney are cooking up 5 inman who was reported it ed by the meeting as well hill and venemanhad both known aut the role that rudy giuliani was playing in ukraine pushing the conspiracy theories and working to get the us ambassador removed after he was successful. morgan told hill that giuliani was a hand grenade. that's going to blow everybody up. >>next the cdc saythere has been a breakthrough in the caseof deaths and lung injuries linked to vaping detls ahead. >>and coming up we will bring in our ownolitical analyst michael yaki to talk about chase of a team win san frcisco's district >>breaking news election results are in and the more progressive of e candidates turned out on top. >>in the district attorney's race in san francisco chase aboudi in one with more than 50% of the vote beating out suzy loftus she conceded today alsohe district 5 supervisor race in san francisco de preston declared victory over valley brn. >>for more now on these latest election rests. we are joined by our very own political analyst micel yaki and michael we've been really talking about these r
summon and mulvaney are cooking up 5 inman who was reported it ed by the meeting as well hill and venemanhad both known aut the role that rudy giuliani was playing in ukraine pushing the conspiracy theories and working to get the us ambassador removed after he was successful. morgan told hill that giuliani was a hand grenade. that's going to blow everybody up. >>next the cdc saythere has been a breakthrough in the caseof deaths and lung injuries linked to vaping detls ahead. >>and...
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>>lieutena colonel alexander veneman the top ukaine expert on the natiol security council telling laakers get a meeting athe white house. they had to investigate the biden the man was on the call between the us and ukrainian president july 25th which he said ft no doubt that this is what was quired in order to get the meeting that the ukrainians had been aggressively pushing for of inman also heard that message from gordon sondnd us ambassador to the european union who was relaying a messagfrom acting chief of admitted to the quid pro quo last month get over it, there's going to be political influence in foreign policy, the decorated colonel was inappropriate and had t it nothing to do with national security. >>well i want to thank colonel than men for his courage in coming his llingness to the fall the law to do his duty veneman wasn't alone. >>his then boss doctor fiona hill read the transcripof the call and said she was shocked. i sat in an awful lot alls e said, and i've not seen anything like this. hill hadlso been told by someone the mulvaney stated that the ukrainians would get a p
>>lieutena colonel alexander veneman the top ukaine expert on the natiol security council telling laakers get a meeting athe white house. they had to investigate the biden the man was on the call between the us and ukrainian president july 25th which he said ft no doubt that this is what was quired in order to get the meeting that the ukrainians had been aggressively pushing for of inman also heard that message from gordon sondnd us ambassador to the european union who was relaying a...
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from the depositions of key witnesses say white house ukraine expert lieutenant colonel alexander veneman says the hold on military aid to ukraine quote came from the chief of staff's office adding the reason was to ensure the assistance ally with the administration priorities acting chief of staff mick mulvaney so they'll to appear at a scheduled deposition on friday. we wanted to hear whether he made the decision to withhold the 8. >>or did the president order him to withhold the aide speaking from the white house last month little rainy confirmed shot froze nearly million and us 8 ukraine he said it was done in part to pressure the country into investigating democrats but he later tonight, admitting the quid pro quo the reality is that republicans are trying to pin this on mulvaney arguing that the president may not have been involved. i don't believe that but mulvaney could clarify the president's role mulvaney's lawyer says the white house directed his client, not to be there adding to a list of white house officials who defied subpoenas i don't want to get ready. president trump con
from the depositions of key witnesses say white house ukraine expert lieutenant colonel alexander veneman says the hold on military aid to ukraine quote came from the chief of staff's office adding the reason was to ensure the assistance ally with the administration priorities acting chief of staff mick mulvaney so they'll to appear at a scheduled deposition on friday. we wanted to hear whether he made the decision to withhold the 8. >>or did the president order him to withhold the aide...
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aide to vice president mike pce and from the national security counsel timothy morrison and alxander veneman who told lawmakers in his closed door testimony that he reported concerns about the call within hours. and was later told not to discuss it with anyone.also on the scdule kurt volkerhe former special envoy ukraine who was one of the so-called 3 amigos with energy secretary rick perry and ambassador to the eu what handling ukraine policy s by the president. >>and someonis slated to testify here tomorrow as for today's witnesses they will be broken up to sessions at about 09:00am washington time we'll hear from jennifer williams. the lieutenant colonel alexander venem and in an afternoon session expected to start around 30 kurt volker and timothy morse and poker and more son weren on the list of wiesses at were requeed by hose republics live on capitol hill this morng, i'm karin caifa now back to you all right, thank you karen out of course will be streami the hearings live from start to finish. >>that way you can watch the hearings uninterrupted so all you have to do is go to yo app st
aide to vice president mike pce and from the national security counsel timothy morrison and alxander veneman who told lawmakers in his closed door testimony that he reported concerns about the call within hours. and was later told not to discuss it with anyone.also on the scdule kurt volkerhe former special envoy ukraine who was one of the so-called 3 amigos with energy secretary rick perry and ambassador to the eu what handling ukraine policy s by the president. >>and someonis slated to...
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vice president mike pence's staff and national security council ficial lieutenant colonel alexander veneman 3 witnesses we on president trump's now infamous july 25th phoneall with ukraine. further weighed in on today's hearings saying in a statement quote, nothing president trump has done said amounts to bribery or any other crime. today's hearing only further exposes that chairman schiff and democrats are simply blinded by their hatred for donald trump. andre conlereporting. >>we'll be streaming the peachment hearing again tomorrow morning from start to finish on interrupted on the kron on app the public hring starts at 6 o'clock in the morning can dowoad kron on right now from the p store. >>the house of representatives has passed a short term spending ll in order to keep federal agncies from running for to keep the running for another month, the hope is that the additional time will help negotiators ap up more than trillion and on fini appropriations bills, the bill willrevent a thanksgiving government shutdown but it now opens the door to possible shutdown just before christmas. the vo
vice president mike pence's staff and national security council ficial lieutenant colonel alexander veneman 3 witnesses we on president trump's now infamous july 25th phoneall with ukraine. further weighed in on today's hearings saying in a statement quote, nothing president trump has done said amounts to bribery or any other crime. today's hearing only further exposes that chairman schiff and democrats are simply blinded by their hatred for donald trump. andre conlereporting. >>we'll be...
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>>and national security council official lieutenant colonel alexander veneman president trump again lashed out against the investigation. >>you have a kangaroo court headed by it little shifty schiff. we don't have lawyers we don't have with this is we don't have anything and yet i just got to watch and the republicans are absolutely killing it they are doing so well because it's a speech to scare. it's a big scam. >>i'm brett conway reporting. headlines 2 prison guards have pleaded not guilty to charges related to the suicide of jeffrey epstein, so federal grand jury they charge the 2 guards with conspiracy and 5 counts of filing false records. the indictment that they failed to do required prisoner counts in the hours leading up to obscene staff. instead prosecutors say the pair they they surf the web they hung out in the common area and they we're even caught sleeping for a couple of hours. it is our hope that we'll be able to reach. >>a reasonable agreement in this case if we cannot after we review the evidence will be prepared to defend them in this case moving forward. >>well the gua
>>and national security council official lieutenant colonel alexander veneman president trump again lashed out against the investigation. >>you have a kangaroo court headed by it little shifty schiff. we don't have lawyers we don't have with this is we don't have anything and yet i just got to watch and the republicans are absolutely killing it they are doing so well because it's a speech to scare. it's a big scam. >>i'm brett conway reporting. headlines 2 prison guards have...
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embassy in kenya of an internet agency agreed action plan and these are things that in fact colonel veneman and others were working on basically moving forward on the various issues of on the list of items. rudy giuliani and other people didn't care at all about this iraqi ambassador sandland wasn't particularly interested in it either it's quite boring it wouldn't make for good copy in the press and it's the kind of thing that everybody in a routine moves forward on. mr holmes you talked about the extraordinary power that russia tries to assert against ukraine so since president selenski never got his white house meeting. doesn't that make ukraine look weak and doesn't that benefit russia. absolutely all right so promoting putin's false claim 5 of ukraine intervention into the u.s. election also benefits russia doesn't that it does so when president trump meets privately with vladimir putin at the g 20 summit who does that benefit. doesn't help ukraine it doesn't help ukraine and by president trump calling ukraine corrupt and not north korea for instance does that accrue to russia's benefi
embassy in kenya of an internet agency agreed action plan and these are things that in fact colonel veneman and others were working on basically moving forward on the various issues of on the list of items. rudy giuliani and other people didn't care at all about this iraqi ambassador sandland wasn't particularly interested in it either it's quite boring it wouldn't make for good copy in the press and it's the kind of thing that everybody in a routine moves forward on. mr holmes you talked about...
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vice president mike pence's staff and national security counci official lieutenant colonel alexander veneman 3 tnses were on president trump's now infamous july 25th phone call with ukraine. on today's hearings saying in a statement quote, nothi president trump bribery or any d amounts to other crime. today's hearing only furth exposes at chairman schiff and the demoats are simply blinded by their hatred for donald trump. i'm brooke conley reporting. >>we e pairings and interrupted today on kron on watch tomorrow's hearings from start to finish on the kron on ap, the public hearing starts at 6 o'clock in the morning you can download kron oright now from the app store. >>take a pe outside now turning to the 4 zone forecast we see a live lookere both san francio. >>plus a check on our weather now is chief meteorologist lawrence car know again i think we're hearing me good news tho fire conditions together they're backing off a lile bit the sunni windy tonight there's no getting around that. but the humidity is come up just a bit of course not to drive them like we had before are down to really
vice president mike pence's staff and national security counci official lieutenant colonel alexander veneman 3 tnses were on president trump's now infamous july 25th phone call with ukraine. on today's hearings saying in a statement quote, nothi president trump bribery or any d amounts to other crime. today's hearing only furth exposes at chairman schiff and the demoats are simply blinded by their hatred for donald trump. i'm brooke conley reporting. >>we e pairings and interrupted today...
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veneman testified that in response to a question from ukrainian officials at that july 10th meeting. scheduling a white house visit. that you said. i spoke with mister mulvaney in it will be scheduled after they announced these investigations. do you have any reason to dispute. >>i don't have any reason to agree or dispute, i just don't remember. >>so if they both remembered and they both and went and spoke to the nsc legal advisor about it. you would trust that whatever they relate to the nsc legal advisor would likely be an actor. >>i i trust that they related to the nsc legal adviser i don't i don't know whether i said it. and i don't know which conversation. again i've i've had very very limited conversations with mister mulvaney. this e-mail indicates. spoke to president zelenskiy and were relaying what he said to. >>very senior officials is that right which e-mail a car that july 19th e-mail. the subject is i talked to zelensky just now. was there some sort of assurance that president zelensky needed to provide about what he would say to president trump in order just to get the
veneman testified that in response to a question from ukrainian officials at that july 10th meeting. scheduling a white house visit. that you said. i spoke with mister mulvaney in it will be scheduled after they announced these investigations. do you have any reason to dispute. >>i don't have any reason to agree or dispute, i just don't remember. >>so if they both remembered and they both and went and spoke to the nsc legal advisor about it. you would trust that whatever they relate...
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>>and national security council official lieutenant colonel alexander veneman president trump again lashed the investigation. >>you have kangarocourt headed by it little shifty schiff. we don't have lawyers we don't have with is is we just got to watch and the i republicans are absolutely well because it's a speech to scare big scam. >>conway reporting. a not guilty plea today from 2 prison guards in connection to the death of jeffrey epstein epstein died back in augt while awaiting trial on federal sex-afficking charges he'd already been convicted in florida. >>the prison guards turned themselves in court documents say that the guards were surfing the internet for furniture sales and sports news at the time of epstein's death. those guards were every ed to stop by his cell 30inutes. but the court records indicate they did not look in on him for hours. one of the guards lawyers had this to say about the not guilty pa. is o hope that. >>we'll be able to reach a reasonablagreement in this case if we nnot aftere review the evidence will be prepared to defend them in this case moving forward.
>>and national security council official lieutenant colonel alexander veneman president trump again lashed the investigation. >>you have kangarocourt headed by it little shifty schiff. we don't have lawyers we don't have with is is we just got to watch and the i republicans are absolutely well because it's a speech to scare big scam. >>conway reporting. a not guilty plea today from 2 prison guards in connection to the death of jeffrey epstein epstein died back in augt while...
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veneman the only staffer still at the white house after testifying before members of congress.details against the president. that's because as the top ukraine expert on the national security council vindman listened in on that critical july 25th phone call, in which president trump asked ukraine's leader to investigate the bidens. let's get straight out to cnn senior congressional colonel ma manu raju. what do you learn from alexander vindman's transcript? >> reporter: serious concerns about the president asking to investigation political rivals. made clear undercut a key alliance with the ukrainians at a time in which ukrainians need the vital military aid to fight back against the russians and learning from others in the administration essentially involved what people would call a quid pro quo. this was a desire by ukrainians to have a meeting in the white house with president trump, because a new incoming ukrainian administration, president zelensky of ukraine wanted to have this meeting but the president wasn't keen on that. one reason why according to the transcript releas
veneman the only staffer still at the white house after testifying before members of congress.details against the president. that's because as the top ukraine expert on the national security council vindman listened in on that critical july 25th phone call, in which president trump asked ukraine's leader to investigate the bidens. let's get straight out to cnn senior congressional colonel ma manu raju. what do you learn from alexander vindman's transcript? >> reporter: serious concerns...
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the first hearing set for tomorrow with colonel alexander veneman the top ukrainian expert for the national security couil he'll be testifying along with williams d we will be streaming those hearings live from start to finish oour kron on app you can watch those arings uninterrupted l you have to do is go to your app store of choice and download that app today. rebecca. >>king a cool start to your morning ing out of the ordinary though 40's and 50's but out of the ordinary is the temperatures this afternoon 're above average. we're going to see 70's and sunshine. we'll have a complete forecast coming up. i'm tracking your drive around the bay aa very busy into san francisco, 80 wes crawling from the maze plus a hot spot bkele man 1 vo: proof of less joint pain woman oc: this is my body of proof. and clearer skin. man 2 vo: proof that i can fight psoriatic arthritis. woman 2 vo:...with hu. woman 3 vo: humira targets and blocks a specific source ofnflammation th contributes to both joint and skin symptoms. it's proven to help relieve pain, stop further iand clear sk in many adults. humira is
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colonel alexander veneman is t top ukraine expert for the national security council and jennifer williamsn aide to vice present mike pence r both scheduled to testify in other national headlines. the president has long been critical of california and in particar the bay area for the homeless crisis. but despite that he has fired the top federal offial in charge of fighting homelessness matthew doherty was appointed to the role under the oba admistration back in 2015 he was let go over the weekend. the white house hasn't said who will be repling it. >>president mike pence ha started distancing himself from his advis jennifer williamsthat's one of his staff memrs who testified in a closed door session as rt of the impeachment inquiry. the president clled her a quote never trumper on twitter even though pence's staff says that they a very selective about who isassigned 2 staff. williams is currently serving as a special adviser to e vice president for europe and russia, she set to testify publicly tomorrow before the house intelligence committee. >>a memorial service will be held for the lat
colonel alexander veneman is t top ukraine expert for the national security council and jennifer williamsn aide to vice present mike pence r both scheduled to testify in other national headlines. the president has long been critical of california and in particar the bay area for the homeless crisis. but despite that he has fired the top federal offial in charge of fighting homelessness matthew doherty was appointed to the role under the oba admistration back in 2015 he was let go over the...
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followed by testimony from alexander veneman, a ukrainian expert from the national security council and former special envoy to the ukraine and former national security official, but many here in washington are eagerly awaiting to hear from gordon sondland, scheduled to testify wednesday morning. he's the ambassador to the european union and is believed to have had multiple interactions with president trump about ukraine. >> this is the first time by the way that you have direct testimony of someone speaking to the president and relating what the president has said and what he says directly contradicts these statements that are largely hearsay. >> i think he's got to decide this weekend whether he's an american first or a trump loyalist. i'm not sure we can trust his testimony given the fact we know it's already changed. >> house leaders say no matter what sondland says the process of the impeachment inquiry is tainted because g.o.p. lawmakers have not been allowed to call the witnesses that they would like to have testify. >> there are a lot of people who work in the trump administrati
followed by testimony from alexander veneman, a ukrainian expert from the national security council and former special envoy to the ukraine and former national security official, but many here in washington are eagerly awaiting to hear from gordon sondland, scheduled to testify wednesday morning. he's the ambassador to the european union and is believed to have had multiple interactions with president trump about ukraine. >> this is the first time by the way that you have direct testimony...
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aide to vice prident mie pence and from the national serity counsel timothy morrin and alexander veneman who told lawmakers in his closedoor testimony that he reported concerns about the call within hours. and was later told not to discs it with anyone. also on the schedule kurt volker the former special envoy to ukraine who was one of the so-called 3 amigos with energy so-called 3 amigos with energy secretary rick perry and sondland tell us what handng ukraine policy by the president. >>ambassador sondland is slat to testify here tomorrow but asked for today before witnesses will be broken up into 2 sessions with williams and denman arting things off in the morng karin morris and in the afternoon is oveand more son were both. potential witnesses compiled by house republicans that they wish to hear testify volker in his closed door testimonsaid he didn't know of any quid pro quo at would hinge ukrainian the milita aid on investigation of the bidens and democrats. on capitol hill this morning, i'm karen back to you thanks for the update. karen. >>and don't forget as well dar you mentioned
aide to vice prident mie pence and from the national serity counsel timothy morrin and alexander veneman who told lawmakers in his closedoor testimony that he reported concerns about the call within hours. and was later told not to discs it with anyone. also on the schedule kurt volker the former special envoy to ukraine who was one of the so-called 3 amigos with energy so-called 3 amigos with energy secretary rick perry and sondland tell us what handng ukraine policy by the president....
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president mike pence's staff and national security council official lieutenant colonel alexander venemansses were on president trump's now infamous july 25th phone call with ukraine. and on today's hearings saying in a statement quote, nothing president trump has done or said amounts to bribery or any other crime. today's hearing only further exposes that chairman schiff and the democrats are simply blinded by their hatred for donald trump and rick comley reporting. >>and tomorrow could be the biggest day that we have seen so far with these hearings will be streaming them from start to finish uninterrupted on the crime on ab gordon sunland set to testify will he plead the 5th will he implicate president trump a lot of questions about tomorrow's much anticipated hearing which starts it. 6 in the morning our time you can download the kron on app to start watching now. >>we've got clouds rolling through parts of the north bay, even a couple of scattered showers the winds are with them know we will talk about that coming up next drugs in cannes and seized 50 arrested a major gang bust and th
president mike pence's staff and national security council official lieutenant colonel alexander venemansses were on president trump's now infamous july 25th phone call with ukraine. and on today's hearings saying in a statement quote, nothing president trump has done or said amounts to bribery or any other crime. today's hearing only further exposes that chairman schiff and the democrats are simply blinded by their hatred for donald trump and rick comley reporting. >>and tomorrow could...
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transcripts from key witnesses that includes top white house ukraine expert lieutenant colonel alexander venemane hold on military aid came from chief of staff mick mulvaney mulvaney did not show up for his deposition schedule on friday. his lawyer says that the white house directed him not to be there. lawmakers want answers to conflicting statements that he's made about the quid pro quo first admitting that the white house withheld aid to ukraine until they investigated the bidens then he denied that he said that. coming up on kron 4 news weekend. we'll introduce you to a student who is creating a robot intended to help first responders. >>during wildfires. there are three words that mean everything when you live with migraine... "i am here." aim to say that more with aimovig. a preventive treatment for migraine in adults that reduces the number of monthly migraine days. for some, that number can be cut in half or more. don't take aimovig if you're allergic to it. allergic reactions like rash or swelling can happen hours to days after use. common side effects include injection site reactions a
transcripts from key witnesses that includes top white house ukraine expert lieutenant colonel alexander venemane hold on military aid came from chief of staff mick mulvaney mulvaney did not show up for his deposition schedule on friday. his lawyer says that the white house directed him not to be there. lawmakers want answers to conflicting statements that he's made about the quid pro quo first admitting that the white house withheld aid to ukraine until they investigated the bidens then he...
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what was gog >>the next impeachment hearing is set for tuesday with lieutenant colonel alexander venemannational security council d jennifer williams an aide to vice president mike pence set to testify. now miss the impeachment hearings we're taking a look as to why ukraine wasetting aid from the us in the first place nina dos santos explai how it fit s arted during the cold war and later morphed into military aid. >>i don't want to be the ukrainian president may not want to be involved but his country is at the center of the impeachment iniry and i will begin by swearing u n so how did we get here. >>well you think aut ukraine's geogray it's right there right next to russia, it's sort of leaning west not fully embrace by the west. >>and to the breakup of the soviet union ukraine was the ukrainian soviet socialist republic, familyas in moscow's sphere of influence. came to an end in 1991 and ukraine faced a crossroads. >>there was so much scope for imgination for how to re imagine europe and i think ukraine was especially problematic. for 2 reasons one is that it wasn't just on the perip
what was gog >>the next impeachment hearing is set for tuesday with lieutenant colonel alexander venemannational security council d jennifer williams an aide to vice president mike pence set to testify. now miss the impeachment hearings we're taking a look as to why ukraine wasetting aid from the us in the first place nina dos santos explai how it fit s arted during the cold war and later morphed into military aid. >>i don't want to be the ukrainian president may not want to be...