in many cases, the ncaa was a power-mad, ruthless, vengeful organization.t's go through those. power-met? joe: yeah. they created in enforcement mechanism and they also and mechanism and they also controlled tv rights. he was a my way or the highway guy. if you did not do things his way, you were on the blacklist. if you said something about the in an ncaa you do not like, and this is what happened to tarkanian, they go after you. charlie: they look to places where you are violating rules you in that they have created. joe: or they can make it up. when tarkanian went to the you and university of las vegas, you they opened in investigation at unlv nine days after he took the job. how could they have violated his you rules in nine days? they did not like him. one of the reasons we know this is because tarkanian litigated for 20 years. there are people under oath who basically said, the investigators said to me, we are going to get him, run him out of college sports. the head investigator had to admit under oath that he called tarkanian a rug merchant. in he w

and you realize actually in many cases, the ncaa was a power mad ruthless vengful organization. >> rose: let's go through those, power mad. >> yeah, yeah. they, walter byers who made the ncaa powerful in the 1950s, you know, created an enforcement mechanism. and he also controlled tv rights. and he was aon my way or the highway kind of guy. if you didn't do it his way, you were on the black list. if you said something about the ncaa that they didn't like, this is what happened to tarkanian, by the way. they go after you. they would go after you. >> rose: and look to places where you may be violating rules that they think, or that they created. >> or they could make it up. i know that sounds shocking. when tarkanian went from long beach state to university of nevada las vegas, i don't want to dwell on him, but it is a really good illustration. they opened up an investigation intou nlv nine days after he took the job. now how, how exactly could he have violated their rules in nine days? but they didn't like him. they wanted to get him. and by the way, one of the reasons we know this is be

list or kplee the ncaa has been a very vengeful organization that will go after people that criticizemain eligible and the dummy classes are often held at the time when there is no practice. shane battie the fine basketball player he told me once he was a religion major because religion was the only serious subject he could major in that didn't interfere with practice. >> with schedule. >> with practice. >> you ask about coaches, there is a basketball coach at lsu in the '80s and '90s, perhaps more than anybody he tried to speak out -- >> dale brown. >> dale brown is his name. speak out against some of these injustices that he saw. there was a kid on his team who was dying of cancer and there were a couple of players that wanted to go to a fundraiser for his family. the ncaa said no. so he brings them into his office, he shuts the blinds and gives them an envelope full of cash so they can go and visit their dying teammate and dale brown because he discussed some of the things that are wrong with the ncaa was investigated for 15 years of his career. at every turn the ncaa asked his pla