and what about paula vennells? i know it's notjust - vennells?e was any problem or refuse to accept there was any problem. on the question is, should she be giving back her cbe? that seems to be a very live issue for the prime minister. very live issue for the prime minister-— very live issue for the prime minister. �*, ., , , minister. it's not 'ust should she rive minister. it's not 'ust should she live it minister. it's not 'ust should she give it back — minister. it's not 'ust should she give it back or_ minister. it's notjust should she give it back or should _ minister. it's notjust should she give it back or should it - minister. it's notjust should she give it back or should it be - minister. it's notjust should she give it back or should it be taken away, who gave it to her in the first place? that is the big question that needs answering. because this scandal was known about and the problems with horizon were known about for many years so why did they think she had done such a good job at the post office? band did they think she had don

what has paula vennells sad? in the last _ westminster. what has paula vennells sad?n the last hour— westminster. what has paula vennells sad? in the last hour or _ westminster. what has paula vennells sad? in the last hour or so, _ westminster. what has paula vennells sad? in the last hour or so, paula - sad? in the last hour or so, paula vennells, the head of the post office in a crucial period in the scandal, though 16 years, she was head from 2012 until 2019, a crucial period. she repeatedly denied in that period this faulty software you mentioned that led to it being looking as though money was disappearing from a council when it wasn't, which led to a number of people wrongfully convicted. many were sent to prison, and some have died with those criminal convictions. pressure has been mounting. in the last couple of hours, she's released a statement, the first time she has commented. she said she is truly sorry for the devastation caused to those serb postmasters, those who run post office branches across england's and the uk, sorry for the devastation caused to

especially for paula vennells. many people — days? especially for paula vennells. many people are asking _ days? especially for paula vennells. many people are asking why - days? especially for paula vennells. many people are asking why on i many people are asking why on earth it was a good idea to give her an honour in the first place? the gong is going but not the questions. that said, we may not hear again from paula vennells until she appears before the public inquiry, after easter. so where will the attention focused on next? jujitsu will be in the spotlight, the business select committee has invited the company to answer questions next weekend i cannot recall hearing from an executive from the company over the years because they have escaped a lot of scrutiny. why was horizon allowed to go live in the first place when there were problems? did it put profits before people? these are the sorts of questions, but also we have the public inquiry starting again this week, as they slowly work up again this week, as they slowly work up the chain of command to try and

you also learned that paula vennells was shortlisted to be bishop of london in 2017.ained priest in the church of england. in 2017 what she was still head at the post office she was shortlisted and interviewed to be the next bishop of london. this really shows what a well—respected figure she was in some circles. she didn't hold any senior position in the church which he was fast tracked through. we understand the archbishop of canterbury was keen to see her on the shortlist. she didn't ultimately get the post. it shows how well—respected she was at least in the church of england. many people in the church are outraged that she was fast tracked so

the pressure was piling on paula vennells _ vennells.was piling on paula vennells to hand _ vennells. the pressure was piling on paula vennells to hand back - vennells. the pressure was piling on paula vennells to hand back this - paula vennells to hand back this honour. just to remind people, she ran the post office during a key period between 2012 and 2019, and she repeatedly denied this piece of software called horizon, which made it look like money was disappearing from post office accounts when it wasn't, leading to their convictions, she denied there were issues. open till now, amid all the calls for her to lose her honour, she has maintained his silence, until the last couple of hours when she said i am truly sorry for the devastation caused to the postmasters and their family whose lives were torn apart. she confirmed she will return her cv with immediate effect and says she won't be making any further comment until after the public inquiry, which is ongoing into the scandal, is concluded. paula vennells, the former head of the p

so what does he make of paula vennells's decision? it he make of paula vennells's decision? teeth _ decision? it kind of was a kick in the teeth back _ decision? it kind of was a kick in the teeth back then. i decision? it kind of was a kick in the teeth back then. now. decision? it kind of was a kickj in the teeth back then. now it is a full circle as a now we have got to a point where it is acceptable that the moral decision to hand it back is the right decision. i personally have spent many, many years not being listened to, and i'm thankful that people are listening now and i think people really are listening. there has been a real step change. in there has been a real step chance. . , , change. in leicestershire, there is — change. in leicestershire, there is a _ change. in leicestershire, there is a lot _ change. in leicestershire, there is a lot of _ change. in leicestershire, there is a lot of sympathy| change. in leicestershire, i there is a lot of sympathy for what lee and others have experienced.— what lee and others have exerienced. , , ., ., , experienced. they

this isn't just about paula vennells , is just about paula vennells, is she? the moment, though, appears to be the fall guy or woman . woman. >> patrick i think so , and i >> patrick i think so, and i think that what she's done is quite astute to hand back the honoun quite astute to hand back the honour. it's almost an acknowledgement from her that whether she was personally culpable or not, she was in a senior leadership position when this terrible events have taken 1.2 million signatures on a petition, though, for her to actually hand it back , it has actually hand it back, it has indeed, but nonetheless , it's indeed, but nonetheless, it's quite an astute move because the spotlight now will move on to some of the other names that you've just mentioned there, and also some of the political figures who, again, are much more comfortable when throwing out for other people to out calls for other people to resign or throw their hands resign or or throw their hands up and admit wrongdoing than they are when it applies to themselves. >> let's not forget that there'

paula l vennells has the cbe. you are 'okina. vennells has the cbe.you are joking. but now— vennells has the cbe. you are joking. but now the _ vennells has the cbe. you are joking. but now the former . vennells has the cbe. you are l joking. but now the former boss ofthe joking. but now the former boss of the post _ joking. but now the former boss of the post office _ joking. but now the former boss of the post office has _ joking. but now the former boss of the post office has agreed - of the post office has agreed to hand macro honour, saying she was truly sorry for the devastation caused. downing street said it was the right decision. another seniorfigure and project who ran were made between 2003 and 2010 has expressed his heartfelt sympathies. mineral ministries are working on a plenty speed up are working on a plenty speed up the process of exonerating the victims amid calls for legislation that would quash their conditions. irate legislation that would quash their conditions.— their conditions. we can do something _ their conditions. we can do

her gong's gone but serious questions remain for paula vennells.o force postmasters into their costly high court battle to why the post office continued prosecutions long after concerns over the reliability of horizon were raised. but there were three other post office bosses along the way. take, adam crozier. now the chair of bt. he was the ceo when the post office was still a part of royal mail. when the prosecutions were well underway. in a statement tonight, he said... there'sjohn roberts. he was in charge when horizon was implemented and has given a witness statement to the public inquiry, which is trying to get to the truth. dame moya greene. she was ceo when the first stories of the scandal emerged. all are facing media scrutiny now. then there's the japanese company fujitsu. their software is at the heart of this scandal. they installed it, managed it — and still do. they've been invited to answer questions from the business select committee next week. fujitsu's done very well out of public sector work. it's been awarded 191 contracts worth

uh, the paula vennells ? finally, vennells is it now?s this going to be the first step that row ? uh, somehow i step in that row? uh, somehow i think not. but anyway , i want think not. but anyway, i want to look at but the look at that. but also the labour that a video on labour mp that did a video on social about social media yesterday all about the stockholm went the bibby stockholm went wandering over there, uh, interviewing the people, the residents talking about how cruel and inhumane and prison like know what? i'm like it is. you know what? i'm getting bit fed up with getting a little bit fed up with this, martin. quite frankly , this, martin. quite frankly, because treat these because we actually treat these people very kindly indeed . we people very kindly indeed. we look after them, we keep them safe . um, so i'm asking, she safe. um, so i'm asking, she thinks the bibby stockholm needs to be closed down. does it really? need be made really? does it need to be made more comfortable? >> incentivise more >> will that incentivise m

paula vennells has got the cbe. you'rejoking...! "services to the post office."as she caved to mounting public pressure to hand back the honour. in a statement, she said... it must be a bug. it must be...it must. be a computer bug... lee castleton's story was one of those featured in the drama series. he went bankrupt after being falsely accused of stealing £25,000. so, what does he make of paula vennells' decision? it kind of was a kick in the teeth back then. now it's full circle, i suppose, and we've got to a point where now it's acceptable that the moral decision to hand it back is the right decision. i personally have spent many, many years not being listened to and i'm thankful that people are listening now, and i think people really are listening. there's been a real step change. in leicestershire, there's a lot of sympathy for what lee and others have experienced. they should get as much back possible, and not always money. it doesn't heal wounds what they've gone through. it's shocking, you know, - to be made to feel like that, made to feel like they've

number ten has been reacting to this news from paula vennells, what has the prime minister's spokesmansman been sa in? , ., , saying? in the last couple hours, we had the afternoon _ saying? in the last couple hours, we had the afternoon briefing _ saying? in the last couple hours, we had the afternoon briefing for- had the afternoon briefing for westminsterjournalists, the prime minister's official spokesperson saying it was obviously the right thing to do for paula vennells to hand back her cbe. also interesting to note, downing street stressing that she is still paula vennells cbe, that needs to be formally rubber—stamped by his majesty the king. in the meantime, there is still the prospect of the honours forfeiture committee could actually strip her of that cbe, something the prime minister's spokesperson said rishi sunak would still strongly support. but the focus for government, as you've been saying, is how they expedite the convictions of these sub postmasters mistresses, some 700 who have been wrongly convicted, around 100 or so had their convictions overturned, and their conv

yet paula vennells , the fraud.la vennells, the ex ceo , clutches on to her cbe ex ceo, clutches on to her cbe for unbelievably served , says to for unbelievably served, says to the post office server mrs. to the post office server mrs. to the post office for what the biggest stitch up since the biothum tapestry . nearly biothum tapestry. nearly a million people are clamouring for vennells to lose her cbe. it's a number that keeps climbing this petition. it's a thunderous demand for justice. this isn't just a petition, this is a roar from the public. fed up with injustice. enter alan bates, the unsung hero of this dark tale, who actually turned down an obe in protest. his actions aren't just noble , actions aren't just noble, they're a stark, shining contrast to the murky depths of this scandal. bates isn't just a hero, if you ask me. he's a sort of chap. we desperately need more of within the political arena. let's cut to the chase here, though . vennells stint at here, though. vennells stint at the post office was

you also learned that paula vennells was shortlisted to be bishop of london in 2017. as well as being the head of the post office, paula vennells was an ordained priest in the church of england. in 2017 what she was still head at the post office she was shortlisted and interviewed to be the next bishop of london. this really shows what a well—respected figure she was in some circles. she didn't hold any senior position in the church which he was fast tracked through. we understand the archbishop of canterbury was keen to see her on the shortlist. she didn't ultimately get the post. it shows how well—respected she was at least in the church of england. many people in the church are outraged that she was fast tracked so quickly through the process when already we knew about significant concerns about the horizon system at that point. on the wider issue of the scandal, the government is under pressure to act and justice secretary alex chalk says a law to quash hundreds of post office fraud convictions is receiving "active consideration". politicians really since this sca

paula vennells.he bears her share of the blame and she must bear her share of the retribution. uh, but there were so many people who behaved so really badly that i worry that if we go after paula vennells as the front person to be to be. we got at, uh, we may think that justice has been achieved once we've , uh, once she has been we've, uh, once she has been punished as she needs to be. uh, there are lots of people who bear the blame , and i am not bear the blame, and i am not concentrating myself on paula vennells . vennells. >> what about the people ? the >> what about the people? the compensation order. arbuthnot why is it taking so long? um, too few have been paid . rishi too few have been paid. rishi sunak says they're going to try and speed it up. this has been dragging for. on well, you've been involved since 2009. why so long? bearing in mind some people took their own lives and some people have died of natural causes since this scandal first started unfolding . started unfolding. >> yes, we

vennells still a live issue.avey davie, who was minister for the post office at the time, is now the leader of the liberal democrats and most importantly, of course, of those 700 postmasters who were wrongfully convicted , only 93 have seen convicted, only 93 have seen their convictions overturned, 54 have taken their their , uh, case have taken their their, uh, case to the appeals court and have failed to get that appeal, legitimised some of them were actually saw their convictions upheld and others simply had to leave the process because it was all so stressful and difficult and complicated. so the current sitting government, although this all happened a very long time ago , they are under huge time ago, they are under huge amounts of pressure to get this fixed as soon as possible. the justice secretary , alex chalk, justice secretary, alex chalk, is meeting with ministers today to talk about possible options to talk about possible options to get those convictions overturned . and very, very overturned. and ver

paula vennells, boss's cbe.ere problems with the horizon it system, which made it look like money was missing from post office branches. hundreds of staff, as a result, were convicted, jailed, bankrupted and some even took their own lives after they were wrongly accused of theft. the justice secretary and post office minister are now looking at how to help those caught up in the scandal. one of the victims, christopher head , says he christopher head, says he doesn't believe the fault lies with just one person. you look back over the years that you know there is obviously people in fujitsu. >> there is people in government or ministers or even, you know, civil servants that maybe tried to have damage limitation, let's say, in to order try and make this a hope that it would go away. there's countless away. so there's countless number of people you had previous at post office previous ceos at post office of adam there's you adam crozier. there's you know, there's just there's the list is endless. so need the inqui

paula vennells has got the cbe. you're joking...! services to the post office.different for paula vennells as she caved to mounting public pressure to hand back the honour. she had been chief executive of the post office from 2012—2019, a period when serious issues emerged about the horizon software. in her statement today, she said... i have listened and i can affirm that i return my cbe it must be a bug. it must be...it must be a computer bug... lee castleton�*s story was one of those featured in the drama series. he went bankrupt after being falsely accused of stealing £25,000. so what does he make of paula vennells' decision? it kind of was a kick in the teeth back then. now it's full circle, i suppose, and we've got to a point where now it's acceptable that the moral decision to hand it back is the right decision. the renewed publicity has made dealing with hundreds of wrongful convictions a priority for mps. we can do something good, mr speaker, together, if the justice secretary will bring a simple bill to quash all 800 immediately. the suggestions he mad

uh, phil says, i don't think paula vennells at all. vennells is remorseful at all.ecause she was she's bothered because she was rumbled people as well. we rumbled many people as well. we don't have the answer to that, don't have the answer to that, do we? where has all the money gone? of this? money that gone? all of this? money that was back people? where was paid back by people? where has up? and the million has it ended up? and the million dollar as well. who dollar question as well. who should pick up the for all should pick up the tab for all of it's you, me of this? because it's you, me and rest of us on the hook and the rest of us on the hook at the moment. it is indeed us tax payers. what about fujitsu? why so why are they getting off so lightly? your thoughts on lightly? keep your thoughts on it in. and as i asked it all coming in. and as i asked as well, if you have been affected by this, do you feel pleased that paula vennells affected by this, do you feel pleehanded that paula vennells affected by this, do you feel pleehanded back paula vennells affected

and also, paula vennells , year. and also, paula vennells, she has, of course, given back her cbe.was boss of the post office when this was coming to delight, delight , though the to delight, delight, though the post office was still very much in denial for many years. post office was still very much in denial for many years . she's in denial for many years. she's given that award back . back. um, given that award back. back. um, lots of demands now for her to give the bonuses back as well that she earned in that period, amounting to several million pounds. amounting to several million pounds . um, amounting to several million pounds. um, again, amounting to several million pounds . um, again, the prime pounds. um, again, the prime minister's spokesman wouldn't be pushed on that, but let us see what happens. so a really very good day for campaign . but what happens. so a really very good day for campaign. but i just think incredible, isn't it really that despite the years of campaigning, the years of suffering, the hundreds of articles in the paper documents on the telly, it has ta

uh vennells . uh, paula vennells has vennells.victims 25 year fight for justice. five years on from leaving with £5 million and a cbe. years on from leaving with £5 million and a cbe . one week million and a cbe. one week after bombshell tv dramas and has 1.2 million people sign a petition . shamed post office petition. shamed post office scandal chief paula finally gets the message and hands back her gong. the message and hands back her gong . also, the epstein files gong. also, the epstein files sex, lies and videotape . it's sex, lies and videotape. it's the headline those bad headlines will not go anywhere. they will not go away. for prince andrew, uh, the independent. now, andrew may have been pressured by the queen settle epstein's sex queen to settle epstein's sex case also as disgraced case and also as disgraced former post office chief hands back her cbe and apologises for devastation to lives of hundreds of wrongly prosecuted . of wrongly prosecuted. subpostmasters now tell the truth about what you knew and when . sun ne

paula vennells is an ordained — england, as well. _ england, as well. paula vennells is an ordained anglican priest - england, as well. paula vennells is an ordained anglican priest and - england, as well. paula vennells is an ordained anglican priest and we | an ordained anglican priest and we have learnt today that the archbishop of canterbury wanted her to become the bishop of london. this was around the time that she was still involved in the post office in her role. it didn't happen, she was interviewed, she was on a shortlist, she made the final three. she didn't get the role. but it does show the extent to which, while this was always going on and while she was in always going on and while she was in a prominent role, people have called for her to be stripped of her cbe, she was still being considered for other prominent high profile roles, as well. in terms of the kind of public awareness that there is of the scandal, there is absolutely no sense that it was on the agenda in that way at the time. this sense that it was on the

paula vennells has got the cbe. you're joking...! services to the post office.xecutive of the post office from 2012—2019, a period when serious issues emerged about the horizon software. in her statement today, she said... it must be a bug. it must be...it must be a computer bug... lee castleton's story was one of those featured in the drama series. he went bankrupt after being falsely accused of stealing £25,000. so what does he make of paula vennells' decision? it kind of was a kick in the teeth back then. now it's full circle, i suppose, and we've got to a point where now it's acceptable that the moral decision to hand it back is the right decision. the renewed publicity has made dealing with hundreds of wrongful convictions a priority for mp5. we can do something good, mr speaker, together, if the justice secretary will bring a simple bill to quash all 800 immediately. the suggestions he made is receiving active consideration. i expect to be able to make further announcements shortly. in normal circumstances, it would be almost unthinkable for parliament to

um, let's start off paula vennells. i so many paula vennells.any people a million people now, over a million people now, over a million people on a petition are calling for hair to be stripped of the cbe. i would question she cbe. i would question why she was the first was awarded it in the first place, you know, whatever. place, but, you know, whatever. should of it? should she be stripped of it? >> there's no doubt she >> i think there's no doubt she should of it. and should be stripped of it. and i think, um, i gather rishi sunak if he hasn't said it already, he's about to say the same thing as i mean, was an outrage. >> well, he said he would strongly support whatever that committee it committee decides. basically, it was, , uh, it was an was, uh, it was, uh, it was an outrage that she got it in the first place, given what was going on. >> i've been covering this story for some years as well. it wasn't fashionable is wasn't as fashionable as it is now. terrific uh, biopic now. terrific drama, uh, biopic rather from itv , uh, which has rather

vennells. but of frankly. paula vennells.do and course, what you cannot do and this the inconsistency, you this is the inconsistency, you can't a peerage. so can't take away a peerage. so barbara been barbara eamonn, who's been implicated in huge, uh , implicated in huge, uh, collating for herself collating of money for herself from the ppe contracts, you can't take away a peerage. you can't take away a peerage. you can take away a cbe. >> no. well, look interesting point. um, fraser , because we point. um, fraser, because we teased this. have a look at this in the telegraph about bottled water. we all sort of know we shouldn't be drinking bottled water because of single water because of the single use plastics, which whether plastics, right? which whether you or not, i think it's you agree or not, i think it's a, you know, a valid thing to look at. but apparently the water itself contains plastic. >> . so it's been known that >> yeah. so it's been known that there been particles there have been small particles of in sort of

um, paula vennells , paula vennells and her vennells, paula vennells and her cbe should she be strippedow. um, i think that's always a difficult question because , uh, people question because, uh, people make mistakes. what else have they done to get that award ? they done to get that award? that's not for me to say. >> okay, lots more to come. i'm going to be speaking to the chief secretary to the treasury, laura trott, in just a moment. stay tuned. all rely on, unless we can afford private health care, and i can't if we cut taxes, how on earth are we going to improve those? >> welcome back . now, still lots >> welcome back. now, still lots more to come in. just a minute. i'm going to be joined by the chair of the one nation group of tory mps, damian green, laura trott, the chief secretary to the treasury, will also be speaking to i'll be speaking to me and i'll be discussing all things education with phillipson she's with bridget phillipson. she's the secretary the shadow education secretary i'm to joined by i'm also going to be joined by polling expert matt goodwin, who's on hand to

paula vennells. paula vennells. thank you . who's got who's now? you. who's got who's now?e in the public eye, a certain amount of honour and whether her fault or whether it's her fault or whether it's her fault or whether it's her fault or whether it's not, was in whether it's not, she was in charge at the time and she got her cbe for services to the post office or whatever, and therefore she should hand that back. >> i completely agree with you, eamonn. it's a disgrace that she's still waiting to do it. there's a pressure mounts. i would have done it on day one when hit 250 k, and i think when it hit 250 k, and i think i would have felt better for it as well. to me to the other person that hasn't really come out with any accountability is the that hasn't really come out with any aofyuntability is the that hasn't really come out with any aof the ability is the that hasn't really come out with any aof the liberal is the that hasn't really come out with any aof the liberal democrats; that hasn't really come out with any aof the liberal democrats ed head of the liberal democr

when you met paula vennells, did you i you met paula vennells, did you get any sense of empathetic views? h0. any sense of empathetic views or anything concerning her? no, the iron was anything concerning her? no, the irony was that _ anything concerning her? no, the irony was that she _ anything concerning her? no, the irony was that she treated - anything concerning her? no, the irony was that she treated the - irony was that she treated the postmasters that i was in the same ilk as at a of the pin—ups of the post office opened this wanted to be a corporate business so if you were running a post office like we were, in a supermarket, as part of a larger business, that was the vision she was very corporate in her focus. and of course you have seen that in the documentation, the —— in the documentary, the little people. and documentary, the little people. and ou documentary, the little people. and you became — documentary, the little people. and you became involved in this because of your constituents, some of the so—called little people. of your constituents, some of the so-called littl

vennells? yeah, we? about paula vennells? yeah, but maggie oliver, we? about paula vennells?can't maggie oliver, we? about paula vennells? yeah, bcan't understand maggie oliver, we? about paula vennells? yeah, bcan't understand whyjie oliver, we? about paula vennells? yeah, bcan't understand why shelliver, we? about paula vennells? yeah, bcan't understand why she hasr, i can't understand why she has been yeah. been overlooked. yeah. >> a very fair >> it's a it's a very fair point. and if you're going to have system and have an honours system and actually, largely actually, i think largely speaking they can be very useful. although may disagree speaking they can be very useflsomehough may disagree speaking they can be very useflsomehough examples sagree speaking they can be very useflsomehough examples ofjree with some of the examples of people who get these gongs and baubles. to have baubles. if you're going to have one all, surely it's for one at all, surely it's for people like that. >> and last but not least, >> yeah. and last but not least, many people are getting in touc

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vennells britain.that's the chief executive . executive. >> she became a vicar. >> she became a vicar. >> she became a vicar. >> she did. she stood down as a vicar, but she's still in holy orders. and stephanie says the post office scandal is beyond appalling. one of the many things needs is things that needs addressing is why prosecutions for why are prosecutions only for the little people? do the the little people? why do the bosses, vennells, bosses, like paula vennells, never prosecuted? to never get prosecuted? we need to get yeah. get some answers. yeah, yeah. >> of you were incensed >> a lot of you were incensed about this. and phyllis said, i'm wondering all i'm just wondering where all the human were for human rights lawyers were for all of these poor people. if it was immigrants the was illegal immigrants and the like, victimised, they'd like, being victimised, they'd be they'd right there. our be they'd be right there. our own don't seem own people's rights don't seem to obvious by the to co

paula vennells has got the cbe. joking!ow the former boss of the post office has agreed to hand back her honour, adding that she was truly sorry for the devastation caused. downing street said it was the right decision. another seniorfigure, adam crozier, who ran royal mail between 2003 and 2010, has expressed his heartfelt sympathies to those wronged by what he called the tragic miscarriages ofjustice. meanwhile, ministers are working on a plan to speed up the process of exonerating the victims amid calls for legislation that would quash their convictions. we can do something good, mr speaker, together, if the justice secretary would bring a simple bill to quash all 800 immediately. the suggestions he made is receiving active consideration. i expect to be able to make further announcements shortly. the government is expected to set out exactly what it plans to do by the end of the week. there are concerns, though, about parliament interfering with court rulings. we have to do things, we have to get this sorted, but we also

the former post office boss, paula vennells, denied there were problems with the horizon.t reckoning up time. each day implies theft as a result , each day implies theft as a result, hundreds of each day implies theft as a result , hundreds of postmasters result, hundreds of postmasters and mistresses were convicted, jailed , bankrupted, some even jailed, bankrupted, some even took their own lives. well now there are calls for mrs. vennells to be stripped of her cbe and td kevin hollinrake has said this evening it's perfectly reasonable for people to suggest that an idea also

herself . price with vennells herself.yes, losing her cbe, but hanging on to her salary and bonus package , which is in excess of package, which is in excess of £5 million, point the finger at any of the alleged guilty parties. and the answer is always the same. not me guv. this story demonstrates that the corporate political , corporate political, bureaucratic and legal establishment is not fit for purpose and certainly in no position to look down to or talk down to us. the great british public. and we've been here before. a lack of justice for the hillsborough victims, the blood poisoning scandal, the leasehold cladding debacle and covid tyranny inflicted on ordinary people by the powers that be without debate, without consent and without either a cost benefit analysis or evidence based data. i predict that in time the government's illiberal and ruinous covid response, including lockdowns and mask and vaccine mandates, will be the post office scandal. times a hundred. but the message here is clear ordinary people don't m

well meanwhile, the shamed former post office boss paula vennells has bowed to huge pubuc paula vennellsive up her cbe and now is facing calls to return millions of pounds in bonuses. >> let's talk to our political correspondent, katherine forster who's in westminster for us this morning . morning. >> i mean, this is just not going away . going away. >> it's incredible, isn't it? every day there's more revelations and they all get more shocking . than before. more shocking. than before. today, a real focus on fujitsu and the news that the chap who basically invented this faulty software has has refused to give evidence to the public inquiry unless he is first granted immunity . unless he is first granted immunity. dodi. now, this is a guy who who repeatedly told, uh, said that this this system was not corrupt, which led directly to in some cases, the imprisonment. but hundreds of false as it turned out, convictions of perfectly innocent sub postmasters. and meanwhile fujitsu is still being awarded government contracts. the papers today reveal that they're earning $100 million a year from

a petition to revoke the cbe awarded to paula vennells, which she received in 2019, has been signed bystions too for the government, which owns the post office outright. since 1999 there have been 19 ministers responsible. our political editor chris mason is in westminster for us now. es. good evening. this is seen as the most widespread _ es. good evening. this is seen as the most widespread miscarriage| es. good evening. this is seen as i the most widespread miscarriage of justice of the 21st—century. tonight we have heard from the government that it we have heard from the government thatitis we have heard from the government that it is planning to look into whether or not it can change the law and change it quite quickly in an attempt to exonerate so, so many people, hundreds of people, who want to see their cleared, it might come forward with its plan to do that as soon as later this week. —— and the government is hinting it might come forward. after years of headlines about this and more than two decades of injustice what we have learned in the last few days is the power of a tv d

paula vennells received her cbe in 2019 when theresa may was in office. we know, though, that around 500 or so subpostmasters were about to bring a group action to the high court and a judge was about to issue a damning indictment of the horizon computer system saying it was defective. the sunday times newspaper spoke to people there is about what and how close that larva will get to grindavik. the local police are saying this morning it started out at around a50 metres away from the perimeter. it is starting to edge closer and closer to pipes, electricity surprise. there is a biotechnology greenhouse which was an deed back in november so in terms of valuables,. that is due to go under the lava. authorities are predicting that actually the main fish i was going to reach the time that this new one we have rear head about really increases concerns. as i said local authorities are deeply concerned about what this will mean. it has something they will work out how to protect these fishing villages. we saw some powerful images earlier of construction workers h

and nobody, nobody , especially paula nobody, especially paula vennells, came to their aid .. >> and we knew about this before the drama . >> and we knew about this before the drama. um, and she didn't give it back then. so, nick, surely there's no chance now? >> well, it's very unlikely , but >> well, it's very unlikely, but the question is sort of whether she should. i think she morally should. and i think there case for that . i there is a case for that. i first heard about this when andrew bridgen raised it all, and it. and it is shocking, isn't it. more staff were accused more than 700 staff were accused of fraud. someone killed themselves it. tragically, themselves over it. tragically, martin was martin griffiths, because he was hounded £100,000, he hounded over £100,000, which he didn't it's really didn't. oh, it's really disgusting. and ed davey comes out very, very badly. seems to have refused a meeting with alan bates . have refused a meeting with alan bates. there's have refused a meeting with alan bates . there's screenshot i've bates. there's a screenshot i've se

we're seeing 1.2 million people calling for paula vennells to lose her cbe. she's announced at lunchtime today that she will hand it back . she's still got it, nigel, but you can't give it on her back, can you? and i know we all, we all, all the honours you've got. >> of course. oh, i've got nothing. don't worry about that. >> they won't give you one. >> they won't give you one. >> but, but, but this point is important. very important. so so when made cbe that's when you've been made cbe that's been monarch. been approved by the monarch. yeah. been approved by the monarch. yeathat's >> that's it. >> that's it. >> and the only person that can remove that cbe from former remove that cbe from the former ceo post office, paula ceo of the post office, paula vennells, actually advice. vennells, is actually on advice. >> king himself, the honours >> the king himself, the honours forfeiture use forfeiture committee to use a firm which will never say again on gb news that is the on gb news but that is the committee which looks at it even number 10. i've been in briefi

oh, you've done you've done your back piece here. >> and it was vennels. >> and it was vennels. >> andlst whilst post office ceo. >> disgrace. >> yeah, a disgrace. >> yeah, a disgrace. >> she should money >> and she should hand the money back tomorrow. and then the inquiry come whether inquiry should come out whether she not. and would inquiry should come out whether she say not. and would inquiry should come out whether she say when not. and would inquiry should come out whether she say when you not. and would inquiry should come out whether she say when you hand.nd would inquiry should come out whether she say when you hand.nd ymoney you say when you hand the money back, to back, would you be referring to bonuses, would bonuses, a bonus? i would say yes. the that yes. so the money that was supposedly for success obviously wasn't. would wasn't. and i think that would be reasonable. course, be reasonable. and of course, that money then distributed amongst were amongst all the people who were the fair play. >> yeah. fair play. >> yeah. fair play. >> , your back zero. >> linda, your back

we contacted alice perkins and paula vennells, but didn't receive a response.ffice also declined to comment. andy verity, bbc news. why make a fresh inquiry into the uae back to bed for the telegraph and redbird said the structure of their bid seeing the ownership of their bid seeing the ownership of the new company would now resign in the new company would now resign in the uk and that said it was minded to look at the bid again and the culture secretary said it is to start a fresh inquiry into that a uae bid for the telegraph and that is it for verified life and thank you so much watching and hopefully will see you at the same time tomorrow. we saw a lot of sunshine and dry weather during the week and some wet and windy weather overnight which is long gone now but we have seen a slight change of the weather because if introduced cooler and fresher air around the top of the area of high pressure and closer to the high around southern parts of the uk, the winds are a bit lighter but further north, we still have the stronger gusty winds and gales in the northwes

paula vennells _ under way in 2015. i think it did. paula vennells said _ under way in 2015.ance - comment? i don't know. you have provided no legal assistance to - provided no legal assistance to postmasters completing the horizon shortfall application form. do you think that lack of legal provision is ever going to produce a fair claim? tit is ever going to produce a fair claim? , claim? in the settlement, we specifically — claim? in the settlement, we specifically identified - claim? in the settlement, we specifically identified and - claim? in the settlement, we specifically identified and we | specifically identified and we wanted — specifically identified and we wanted a scheme that did not require le-al wanted a scheme that did not require legal support. we wanted it to be as quick— legal support. we wanted it to be as quick and _ legal support. we wanted it to be as quick and simple as possible, and that was— quick and simple as possible, and that was very much the second part of the _ that was very much the second part of the settlement. if that is to be reviewed — o

it is notjust paula vennells, when it is notjust paula vennells, when i was _ it is notjust paula vennellsll through me, that image, that moment. was it an actual moment?— an actual moment? what they do, i had requested _ an actual moment? what they do, i had requested the _ an actual moment? what they do, i had requested the audit, _ an actual moment? what they do, i had requested the audit, they - an actual moment? what they do, i j had requested the audit, they came to the _ had requested the audit, they came to the office, remove the keys from me straightaway and i had to follow them _ me straightaway and i had to follow them in. _ me straightaway and i had to follow them in. so — me straightaway and i had to follow them in, so they led the way in. when _ them in, so they led the way in. when i — them in, so they led the way in. when i was _ them in, so they led the way in. when i was leaving i had a bag and it was— when i was leaving i had a bag and it was about the size of a pencil case _ it was about the size of a pencil case and — it was about the size of a pencil case and they sea

we contacted alice perkins and paula vennells, but didn't receive a response.vernment declined to comment while the inquiry was ongoing. the post office also declined to comment. andy verity, bbc news. the attorney general is considering whetherjudges should review the sentence of a man who killed three people in nottingham last year. valdo calocane fatally stabbed grace o'malley—kumar, barnaby webber and ian coates — and tried to kill three others by running them over. he was given an indefinite hospital order after pleading guilty to manslaughter on the grounds of diminished responsibility — but the victims�* families felt justice was not done, as nickjohnson reports. three families united in grief and despair. we will never come to terms with the loss of our beloved daughter grace and how she lost her life. premeditated planning, the collection of lethal weapons, hiding in the shadows and the brutality of the attacks are of an individual who knew exactly what he was doing. he knew entirely that it was wrong, but he did it anyway. valdo calocane pleaded guilt

we contacted alice perkins and paula vennells l worrying.response. declined to comment while the enquiry was ongoing. the post office also declined to comment. andrew verity, bbc news. let's get some of the day's other news now. protests are being held across australia, calling for the country's national holiday to be changed. australia day, the 26th of january, marks the arrival of european colonialists in 1788. demonstrators want the date to be changed, as a sign of respect for indigenous australians. thousands of people gathered in sydney and melbourne, many holding aboriginal flags. parts of spain have been hit by unusually high temperatures forjanuary. valencia has seen temperatures of 30 degrees which is usual injune but not during the winter months. the heatwave is also affecting parts of southeast france. the highest constitutional authority in france has rejected significant parts of a controversial new immigration law. the constitutional council ruled that almost a third of articles in the bill had to be removed. among them are the