. >> i am vera hale and a member of the immigrants rights commission. i was so pleased to see this bill come to light and we had many hearings at immigrants rights and heard people suffering from this deportation and their relatives that are left behind. one of the things i was impressed by when supervisor avalos presented to the immigrants right commission was the fact he had taken care of what i call the law and order people, and i would like to read you the sentence on the next to the last page of the ordinance that says "local law enforcement agencies may continue to collaborate with federal authorities to protect public safety. this includes but not limited to participation and joint criminal investigations that are permitted under local policy or applicable state or city law." l i thought that will take care of everything and we don't need any carve out and i still think that we don't need them and i thought you gave excellent explanations why we don't and i hope someone listens to them. i am glad to see that the board of supervisors committee is