yeah, what about the average windmill in the average verda? yeah, that's the data available on a truck, they'll tell you exactly how much horsepower the motor is making in a certain, you're right, but then look at how much it costs to charge your electric car, but it depends on where you live, and that's true, it depends on the electricity rates, right, 18 cents a kilowatt hour here, 23 cents a kilowatt hour there, you could say, okay, it costs 50 bucks, but you know, they don't give you a number, they just put you in a circle because they're trying to sell you all these things. i read somewhere, and i don't believe everything i read, especially this one topic, because the crazies that are trying to sell you these things are really, really leading you down the wrong path, the crazies that are trying to refute them are really leading you down the wrong path, you know, the wind that never, never blows, but i... i looked up how much energy it takes to run the new york city subway, because i know trains use a lot of energy. and i did all the calcu