there tends to be bullish signs, verign's. >> i think it's going down.ince 2002. $1900 per ounce, we need inflation. erybody is devaluing the currency. dumping more money into the market. we need inflation for gold, or peaked at $99 and alex everybody and devalue is there concern said -- currency by dumping more and more money into the market we need the inflation for gold or i hate to say this the unexpected event, of in north korea getting nuclear missiles. shock people into buying hard assets. neil: neither of the thing is a stretch. to your point, they say that we are not in a camp that says it's going to be god. it could be very good for gold. >> this is true. the thing is -- the story is economies are healing. world are healing did not need that safe haven right now. but with central banks around the world they rush asonathan pointed out, gold is acting like a currency. it is more volatile. >> the thing is is that they oftentimes tend to anticipate and don't reflect that. even thinking about bank stcks between 2006 in 2007. extremely weak before we