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i pay verizon in my case because i want to use verizon and netflix and log onto al jazeera or whatever decide to do. it's not up to them with what i do with that band width because i am paying them for the service. i don't think they should have a say. i don't think they should be able to dictate and what they are telling their investors, what they are telling the court, what they are telling pretty much everything except for the politicians is that that's what they want to do. they want to discriminate. they want to get paid again. >> isn't the burden falling more heavily on the companies, that are pumping contents onto the west rather than you at home? >> ray -- >> they are paying to get that to the web. they pay to all of the points where it links up with any of these providers. it doesn't make any sense to me there should be an extra charge that they also have to pay and guess who will pay that extra charge ultimately? it will be me that will show up in my wallet. this is the problem. instead of investing in their networks, they are profiting from the scarcity and so they are propo

verizon. verizon did not want the fcc, they were challenging that the fcc have any authority whatsoever to regulate in this square, so to speak, and they lost. the court said that the fcc clearly has the authority to address broad want in our country. so that's a very, very, very important decision, and i think a victory. now, what was very interesting also was to read what the court said in terms of why it's throughout two parts of the challenge from the fcc. and it was really because of how they coupled both two issues that they found, that using it under one umbrella that the counter didn't accept that. but does the federal communications commission have the authority to go back and to rewrite that, they do. they made that clear in their decision. so i'm very pleased with the decision. i think it's a important one for the american people. i don't think that the congress, especially the makeup of the most especially the house of representatives will write that, but the fcc does have the authority to address both blocking and anti-discriminatory action. and i think that they will. >> so in your view the fcc can go back and maybe retake some of the power it gave away by exempting the internet from common carrier requirements? >> well, i think that the fcc, the court actually--the way they wrote the decision, explained why they rejected those two parts, and it was because they enjoined them, both blocking and anti-discrimination, they joined them under common carrier rules. and the court said we don't think you can enjoin both of those under that rule. so they've given them a road map of how to go forward and do it. and why is it important, ray? it is important because of the magnificent introduction that you gave. the internet has been open and free. no company regardless of its size, no matter what it's stock price is, should not be able to block content that perhaps doesn't belong to them, and someone else wants to have access. nor should the public, the consumer, the american consumer be subjected to slow lanes or fast lanes simply because a corporation finds that that is more profitable for them. so these are very, very important principles. >> congresswoman, i'm glad you used that phrase "open and free," it's the same one that the president used. the big providers say the internet will take a lot of investment in the coming years, and it may be open and free, but somebody has got to pay to do that technical upgrade. they think if they pay they should get the inside lane. why not? >> well, i'm thrilled that--and i've seen this, i've witnessed it since i've come to the congress that over$1.2 trillion has been invested in this very important infrastructure. we're lagging in other areas of infrastructure of our country, but this is 21st century infrastructure. it effects how we work, how we educate, how we learn, how we do business, and that investment of $1.2 trillion has more than played my congressional districts on the map. everyone around the world associates themselves with silicon valley, who is there, what we do, what we promote. so i'm not opposed to profit, but profit and the public square, we have a responsibility members of congress, to make sure that there is an even playing field. no consumer, excuse the expression, screwed by anyone simply because they have a corporate interest. do i think the interest can be combined, the public interest and the private sector? of course. they have, that's why they've invested so much. if this was bad business to go into, my region would not be flourishing. silicon valley would not be respected as it is around the world, and our telecommunications infrastructure and internet, the free, open, accessible internet, and that structure would not be admired around the world. i don't fall for that premise that you just described. >> representative anna eshoo with us. thank you, representative. >> thank you. >> we'll take a short break and follow the money and find out whether the fast internet means you'll pay more. this is "inside story." al jazeera america. we understand that every news story begins and ends with people. >> the efforts are focused on rescuing stranded residents. >> we pursue that story beyond the headline, pass the spokesperson, to the streets. >> thousands of riot police deployed across the capital. >> we put all of our global resources behind every story. >> it is a scene of utter devastation. >> and follow it no matter where it leads - all the way to you. al jazeera america, take a new look at news. real reporting that brings you the world. >> this is a pretty dangerous trip. >> security in beirut is tight. >> more reporters. >> they don't have the resources to take the fight to al shabaab. >> more bureaus, more stories. >> this is where the typhoon came ashore. giving you a real global perspective like no other can. >> al jazeera, nairobi. >> on the turkey-syria border. >> venezuela. >> beijing. >> kabul. >> hong kong. >> ukraine. >> the artic. real reporting from around the world. this is what we do. al jazeera america. >>> the internet, today's inside story, joining us for the rest of our conversation on the big ruling on what's called "net new triletety" are in studio, craig aaron, the president and ceo of "free press" a media advocacy group championing affordable enter net access. from new york, maggie rearden from cnet. she writes the "ask columned. >> and center for internet communications and technology policy, the vice president of strand consult, which advises mobile phone operators and rosalind leighton, what do you make of what the congress woman just said that it's still within the fcc's ambeit to revisit and reestablish net neutrality? >> well, i actually agree with quite a lot of congresswoman eschew's comments. i think it's fantastic she pointed out $1.2 trillion investment that's been going on since 1996, about $50,000,000,000 a year. actually, she is quite right. this is not at all a lose for the fcc. this is by far and away a win. ty find it quite surprising we have seen a number of people say that this is a problem. this is tulk n many respects for people who have wanted for a long time to go after reclassifying brad band providers, this is definitely that opportunity. but there is something that's different about this. stalemate. it's been going more than a decade. we are at an impasse. there is no further that we can take this. but what i think that the shift that we will see is that it will move away from a regime that sort of says, well, the congresswoman talked about a level playing field but what this means is that if we want to talk about a level playing field, we have to contract not just the isps, the internet service providers. we need to take a look at the practices of the operating systems, of the handsets. we need to look at the websites, the platforms. it's not just about the access to the internet. but it happens when you get on a particular platform and what's going on there. if we embrace this idea, it needs to not just apply to actor. >> craig aaron, what did you make of yesterday's decision? >> i appreciate the depression woman's efforts to make the best of a bad situation. i think for the federal communications commission, there is no question this was a major, major loss. the court obliterated the rules, rules that i actually thought were too weak in many ways, and has sent it back to the fcc but opens up internet users to a lot of problems. companies like at&t, verizon, time-warner cable, without these rules in place are free to block websites that they don't like. they are free to interfere with web traffic, speed up or slow down traffic based upon who pays them the most or any other reason. i think it's a dangerous decision in that it leaves the federal communications commission who are supposed to look on the 4 users unable to see the communications networks of the 21st century. >> by rejecting the way the fcc made the rules -- not their ability, not their reasoning for why it was important to have rules, didn't they just knock it back into their court and say, argument? >> i think that's right, ray. i think that's importantly. the court did not say net neutrality is a bad idea or a bad policy. they just said, this isn't the way the fcc should have done it. and a lot of us have been saying that for a long time and are now urging the fcc to look at the path as the congress woman described, look at the path that the court lays out that says, if you

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