we have a few hundred i think we have at least seven or eight hundred russian scientists already verkin are connected to cern but you see science research our in-situ it for accepted research is without a field of membership so the research has to be free because otherwise it cannot spread out globally into all the countries the difference between being a member and not being a member is that without membership you are don't have any ok ssion any opportunity to have processions staff members fellowships etc at cern itself you don't have the opportunity for your industry to participate in our big accelerator projects this to her you have been in moscow recently and you discussed with your colleagues from the chatter thin institute joint project what kind of collaboration are you having in mind with the coach out of people. well it was a cut off and. we have already a very good cooperation collaboration on the experimental side that means the experiments which are performed at cern now we see the big opportunity was a coach of in-situ. affiliated institute under the umbrella of course at