it was so verlyn in 1918 and the most of the people who died were younger ranging from 18-45 years old or so and people died sometimes with horrific symptoms and sometimes in as little as 12 hours. everyone took it seriously. the government, because we were at war, and was trying to keep morale up they thought anything that sounded bad would hurt the war effort and they outright lied and said it was ordinary influenza and no big deal. but nobody believed them because so many people were dying so rapidly and in some cases so horribly. there was acceptance of the closing orders really without much resistance in 1918. when cities and all the decisions were pretty much made on a city by city basis back then and not even statewide, much less nationally. there was some resistance when cities that imposed the masking order lifted them because they thought the pandemic had passed and of course it surged back and they raised the regulations and put them too early and when they came back and reimposed things like masking a second time and then there were some resistance but nothing like what we

that is less avirulent sometimes when viruses mutate to spread more efficiently they become less verlyn to but we don't have any data to indicate that is in fact we is what we are seeing. >>'s of your concern is more avirulent how long will the efficacy of the current vaccine under this structure determine when that efficacy will be dampened? >> that will obviously take an observation over a longer period of time. we have to be careful because they are two things going on right now. the viruses transmissible andsm virulent so it can actually overlap because you heard us say on the briefing that greater degree of transmissibility is making people sick the more people that get sick the more that are hospitalized and then you will likely have more deaths. but on a one / one basis whether it is truly are not more avirulent we don't have any indication that is the case here. we us have to continue to observe, which we do. the vaccine trials came up with the efficacy of 94 or 95 percent. but the trials go on for two years we will learn more so still following up on this from the study and the

i said oh my god, you are way ahead of everybody in terms of getting a snapshot of this verlyn's thatas going on. how do you feel about what you did as a film then? >> to piggyback off of what mike said, the great discovery i made when i started looking into this film, i started working on and around 2013. this movement, the adherence to it, they were always here. not like they suddenly magically appeared in 2016 when everybody started paying attention to them. it's not like they are appearing now. it was simply that nobody was really looking at it. for someone like me, or really anyone that cared to look in 2013, 2014, 2015, you can very easily go online and find on much communities with millions of members talking about everything under the sun. i think for me, when i started -- when i became aware of is community, when i became aware of the numbers and depth, i felt very strongly that there was a story to be told. i remember even in taking the film around, for 2016, for this all hit into the mainstream, after him is like, well, this is not really a thing anymore. i think what has b

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