what i discovered exceeded my worst suspicions about his relationship with samuel verner. i was able to be ever more clear how the racial attitudes of new york city's social elite were embedded in scholarship, government policies and culture and why some of those attitudes linger still my first a little bit about the samuel verner. he was the first child of slaveholding family in south carolina who came of age during the virulent backlash to the games blacks have made in reconstruction. at white supremacy he went to the coca first as a missionary and then as a determined to make a fortune in the country have been plundered by the belgian king. is millions of congolese were being enslaved, murdered or maimed under the guise of civilizing them werner left his mission of post and focus his efforts on capitalizing on the turmoil there. in 1904, he returned to the congo as a special agent for the st. louis world's fair. his assignment was to bring back so-called pygmies to exhibit at the fair. fair organizers hope to map human progress from the lowest to the highest civilizatio

samuel verner when he was given a contract to go hunting for pygmies, which is what he said he did. he said he -- he wrote himself in an article for the "st. louis post-dispatch," how i hunted pygmies in central africa. he went heavily armed. so, this story for 100 years he had emerged as ota benga's saviour and his hero and his friend. >> host: you describe in trying to get to the truth of how ota benga is captured, one of the myths is that he was saved from cannibals. >> guest: the biggest myth -- a myth that survived 100 years -- was that he gave many stories but in every account he was ota benga's saviour. he saved him from cannibals saved him from enslavement. saved him from life in the congress congo but he saved him and he suggested that he came with him willingly. but in the archives, we see that he stopped in london on the way there, and he brought like, cases and cases of ammunition, guns and rifles and all manner of military gear, and he even suggested in one letter that maybe he'll take a cannon to make it easier to execute his mission. why would you need that? these peo

it is like the woman who once wrote verner von brown and said quit trying to go to the moon and stay home and watch television the way god intended. there is people who have no notion of the government. whether it is the passenger train ride or the internet or a thought different things. government investment from the very beginning, we created a patent office in the constitution. we were founded by people who believe in the future and there is a branch of government that doesn't get it. and third to be candid, i think we have allowed welfare and bureaucratic spending to crowd out investment. if you go back and look at the percent of the size of the government that we were spending on investment and research and investment and infrastructure, 30 or 40 years ago it was bigger than now. all of this has to be changed and one of the reasons i'm for alzheimer's bonds is i don't think we're going to win the fight -- we'll make some incremental progress but compared to the size of the title wave of illness coming down the road as people age we are not going to get ahead of it within the tra