vernon clark says this about him. this is vernon clark, the cno who appointed him. he did what i asked him to do, i wanted straight talk, and this put him in the crosshairs, he challenged people who didn't want to be challenged. this guy is a courageous, a patriot's patriot. a new cno came in, the new cno had the prerogative to remove him, he did you say the word, relieved of duty and terminated. those words sound like he was fired, like he did something wrong. that he was not getting a good performance review. what was it? >> well that's what the military journals say, that he was fired. and he has commented about what admirable clark said. but when admirable mullen came in, he terminated him. and as the pittsburgh "post-gazette" quoted and i wrote it down. these are not my words. the pittsburgh "post-gazette" on april 5th said a current admiral said that sestak had quote a tyrannical leadership style. he would command by fear and intimidation. and that was why he was terminated. because of his poor command climate. listen, those aren't my words, those are the repo