maybe to benny curry, certainly, maybe to vernon jordan. but it is very clear, at one point, jackie bennett called over to make sure they had the equipment ready, in the office, if she was going to wear a wire. so they were talking about that, both she and her mother were adamant about this. as to the specifics, did they really think she was going to go into the oval office and talk to bill clinton, i'm not sure that that was what they had in mind. >> and then, the request came to the centell panel to expand the assignment, mandate of the office of independent counsel and before they went to the panel they went to the department of justice, and talked to the attorney general and the deputy as to whether or not they were supportive and the doj supported the expansion of the mandate. do they have any regrets about that? you talked to the attorney general and eric holder, now the attorney general. did they regret supporting, giving the office of independent counsel this additional assignment? >> well, they did. i interviewed janet reno at her