sure enough, vernon jordan helped create a lot of opportunity.ger message, i think, about influence and how does it work, i think that there are some hopeful signs. i'm actually kind of encouraged with what we've seen with the digital revolution and how that has democratized opportunities for a lot of people to get voices in ways we won't have is seen 25 years ago. i'm also encouraged by the number of entrepreneurial initiatives that the younger generation is developing where you're seeing a blurring of the nonprofit/for-profit line. people are selling shoes because that can help build water wells in africa, those kinds of things. but the partisanship of washington and the role of big money is a mace of real discouragement. -- is a place of real discouragement. >> right up here. >> hi. i'm karen getman, and i want to ask really both of you about the talked about "view from the top" with a particular institutional point of view, ask you're saying it's more entrepreneurial. i'm wondering is this only in the united states? is it global? and really w

they have but you know i interviewed vernon jordan and african-american who was on the record in my book by the way, and has been a major figure in the democratic party for many many years. he said yes the republicans have made it difficult for this president but when you're elected president you expect him to lead in this leadership has been missing. >> host: and vernon jordan is a relative of valerie jarrett? larry from? larry for massachusetts him into that line. hi. >> caller: i, how are you doing? first evolved the republicans are the ones that put us into this mess. the congress has not worked with this president throughout both of his terms. i would like you to come back on after the midterm election and see who's going to be running. these republicans are going down the tubes. trust me. i would like you to come back and listen to my comments. okay? >> guest: i would like nothing better than to come back to c-span and if they invite me i will be here and i would be delighted to talk to you after the midterm elections. >> host: mr. klein a comment from twitter about presidential ad

vernon jordan hall to create a lot of that. that influence in how networks there are some hopeful signs and i'm hopeful with the digital revolution and to democratize opportunity and ways we would not see 25 years ago. i am encouraged by the entrepreneurial initiative where you see the of blurring of the of clients those that build water wells in africa but the role of big money is a place of discouragement. >> hi. i want to ask both of you the role of gender and race. you talk about "view from the top" with a particular institutional point of view>1 and to say this more entrepreneurial but is this only in the united states? global? and what is the role for women and with the interviews you have had with women and people of color and if they are contributing to a different view. what is the top for artists and musicians? >> the study is focused maybe just a couple of the jurors based international aid for the global question but 10 percent of the study were women but not for lack of trying. trying to find women but at this poin

all of those that are here today, vernon jordan, would never been done. now, here's what i want to say. what i have said is precisely the work which we must continue. so much, so little have we done. what we must do -- so i think it's time to leave aside the legalisms and euphemisms and eloquent evasions. it's time we get down to business of trying to stand black and white on level ground. for myself, i believe it's time or all of us in government and out to face up to the challenge. we must review and re-evaluate what we've done and what we've done. in specific areas, we must set new goals and new objectives and new standards, not merely what we can do to try to keep things coiffed, but what we must do to ake things better. now, how much time will we give them today as to how we're going to ploy that time? who's going to -- employ that time? who's going to bring our groups together and who's going to select that leadership? now what that leadership going to do? specifically, i believe that we must direct our thought and our effort to many, many fields an

wrote that vernon jordan was a relative of alaric jerrett?> guest: his wife is a relative of valerie jarrett. >> caller: how are you doing? first of all the republicans are the ones that put us into this mess. but congress has not worked with this president throughout both of his terms and i would like you to come back on after the midterm election and see who is going to be running. republicans are going down the tubes, trust me. i'd like you to come back after the midterm election and it like you to come back and listen to my comments, okay? >> guest: i would like nothing better than to come back to c-span if they invite me i will be here and i'd be delighted to talk to you after the midterm elections. >> host: mr. klein a comment from twitter about presidential advisers which i think of to some the topics of your books. dee dee fredericks writes do you think the advisers of both president of bombing president clinton came from the same exclusive think tank pull? >> guest: no, i don't. i think president clinton's advisers came from what was

and that's what thurgood marshall did with his degree, that's what vernon jordan has done with his degree. that's what lasalle le forward is doing. that's what may the mayor is doing. and that class is made up of a fascinating number of individuals who are already doing that with their degrees and i think is important because the young men and women of our society today we tend to characterize them and label them because they don't do things quite the way we did -- and i'm not always sure that's fair -- we have alternative spring break on our campus and i have students who apply to do that. i had 300 students go to five cities in this country in haiti and give up their spring break instead of going to daytona beach, instead of sun tanning and patrolicing as they were out in the communities mentoring, tutoring students. and these are kids that could probably even get a job during that period of time albeit for a week and required necessary funds for them to mat trick late but they think it's more important to go out and give service. so i have a renewed faith in our youth and the types of

vernon jordan is a relative of valerie? guest: the life. -- the wife. how are you doing? the republicans are the ones who put us into this mess. withess has not worked this president throughout both of his terms. i would like you to, -- come back on after the midterm --ction and sulu will be run see who will be running. trust me. i will call back after the midterm election, and i would like you do come back and listen to my comments. i would like nothing better than to come back on c-span and if they invite me, i will be here. this is about presidential advisers. do you believe the advisers of both president obama and president clinton came from the same think tank pool? i do not. clinton's advisers came from the democratic leadership council, a centerleft group that tried to bring the democratic party away from its radical base to more of a centrist position. the obama administration has been, by and large, running its policy decisions by political people. i'm talking about david axelrod who helped him get elected. i will give you a concrete example. in my book, i discus