president. >> commissioner veronese: chief, quick question. on request from the commission for a grant writer, where we are on filling that spot? did that start in june, or july? when do that start and is that a requisition? >> chief hayes-white: we're in the hiring process. we're further along than you might think. >> the budget technically hasn't been fully approved. we aren't able to access the position to hire. that happens in early august when it becomes available to fill. we started job descriptions information to put together when that position does become available to us, to advertise for it. >> commissioner veronese: do you have a sense who that person will respec report to? >> chief hayes-white: physical location? >> there's some space we're looking at on the third floor. >> commissioner veronese: that's all i have other than chief, congratulations on your vacation. >> chief hayes-white: thank you. >> commissioner veronese: i was on the police commission, chief fong refused to take vacations. i would pull her aside and told her i wou

president thank you commissioner veronese. i have just couple of questions regarding moving forward. before i ask those questions, i do want to thank you very much for bringing this to the floor and for doing incredible research and giving us a very detailed of what it is you envision that the chief will consider in terms of looking at a new model for the department. this is not just a daunting task for the department but it is a daunting task for our society. we are still overwhelmingly male department. men in our society are viewed in a certain light in order to be real men. not showing weakness, not sharing problems and feelings and we're all human being. we all have feelings and reactions to challenging situations that we have to face.whether it's on the job or in our individual lives and homes. for people who are considered universally to be heroes, that is another barrier to saying i'm having these thoughts. i'm having these urges that i can control somewhat by substance abuse or another way of just coping. having an exp

just like commissioner veronese was saying. honored like that with a wonderful meal, it was fantastic. you spoiled us. i thought we might have to go out to dinner. it was just wonderful. i'm very familiar with the japanese general. i been there so many times, generally to celebrate the emperor's birthday in december. there's nine port sister cities. that's a big deal. i enjoyed it. it was great to be honored there. as usual, the staff of the fire department shows up with their uniforms and looking good and sharp. it's nice for the public to see you in and they love you. i wanted to give you tip of the hat again vice president nakajo, congratulations. >> commissioner covington: thank you mr. president. it was a wonderful event and nakajo family has been so one the numerous times. it really is so great to have someone on our commission who is dedicated to the city and dedicated to his community. the man only had one job in his life. a job lasted for 45 years. we have known each other for almost 40 years. it has been a pleasure to

thank you. >> let me finish with commissioner veronese. finish your thought. >> i believe commissioner hardeman has been sitting silently and patiently as well. >> i'm not in any hurry. >> i think it's important to have the chief speak first. give us your input. >> sure, i'm happy to take any specific questions. it's been a long day, i might be able to be more concise if i get specific questions. commissioner veronese, thank you very much for putting this forward. i've been a long-time supporter of the stress unit and i've worked with a number of members including captain griffin, we have two new members, nazareta and mahoney. certainly i would like their input, as well as griffin, i know retired member christy, endeavoring to look at building on what we have, i really think is a great model. i do. i know there are a number of departments, i know commissioner veronese, you mentioned long beach, they are very progressive. but there are departments that don't have full time members that are firefighters and/or medics that are truly peer memb

commissioner veronese? >> commissioner veronese: chief, i was at the baseball game last night, and i wanted to say that you did an amazing job representing the department. it made me proud to see you out there. you actually pitched from the mound which not many people actually do. so not only was it a great pitch, but you really do a great job representing the city, and i know you made all the firefighters proud that were there, and there were firefighters all over the state i saw that were at this game, so it was a really cool event to shine a light on the department. you did a great job. i had a quick question in regards to the wild land fires that are happening up in the north bay right now. it seems that they seem to be picking up, and i'm just wondering if you are getting any notice from cal fire. i know that the department always stands ready to assist, but is there anything that's being done -- these fires seem to be getting bigger and they're more frequent. is the department getting any notice from

commissioner veronese, you had a comment? >> commissioner veronese: not sure if you answered it, but someone from nert, if you could standup. maybe captain. captain, what type of emergencies do these individuals respond to? >> so all our -- all our original plan was to respond to the earthquake. the training came into existence in 1990 directly after 1989. and locally here in san francisco, the oil spill and the heat wave have been the two emergencies that our volunteers have lent support to. but we have a trained cadre that can respond out of the area, so we supported the firefighters in wild land and santa rosa. >> so it's mainly civilian support. is it civilian support of department resources or is it civilian support -- >> so it's really twofold. it's to train people to the level that they can relieve the burden on the fire department for the need to respond to certain things, and so in that partnership, anyone that takes care of themselves is one less person that the fire department needs to get to, particularly because

. >> commissioner veronese: when did you say that station 16 will be done? >> final completion is now slated for november 7th. >> commissioner veronese: have we seen an up tick in the surf bay rescues. there are notable incidents in the report. >> i can get those number for you. i don't have then. >> commissioner veronese: thank you. cleaveland thank you. vice president, nothing? one quick question for you. training facility for the future, treasure island. what have we decided what we need in terms of space and acreage? what size piece of land we need for the new training facility? >> i would say about seven acres. >> president cleaveland: thank you. thank you very much. keefe gonzalez -- chief gonzalez, you're up. >> good evening commissioners, chief. deputy chief gonzalez, operations report for june. during the month of june, there are 18 working fires, two of can were second alarm. our assistant chief was commander of both fires they did great job keeping it. contained it as much as they could. structures involved. least amount got damaged. notable incid

>> i want to congratulate commissioner veronese's cousin on winning the british open. he looks like your cousin. >> does he? >> anybody disagree? there's italian heritage there, connection, he has got to be sicilian. >> i will look him up. i wasn't aware of it. >> this is the win of what? >> british open. he is italian. >> oh, right. >> i think we wanted to put the chief's residence on the next meeting's agenda to discuss that. >> i have the chief's resident's update. we do have a closed session settlement that needs to be approved. are we going to put the mayor's transition update on the next -- >> i don't think we will be ready at that point. >> and commissioners, just as a reminder, i will not be present for 8-8. deputy chief gonzalez is a good fill-in for sure. he is limited in one aspect and that is of the chief's residence, he doesn't have sort of the knowledge i might have but chief rivera is very well versed on it. i just wanted to raise that for you. >> okay. >> any other commissioners have any additional items to add? >> just a clarification, between now and