alioto veronese: thank you. in regards, one kind of new thing i wanted to bring up to you to see if the department is doing, i know a lot of the technology that we use today in what we wear, helmets, hats, turnouts, you know, the pants and the boot. a lot of that technology is older technology. i'm wondering if the department is looking at what other departments in the world are doing as far as updating that type of technology, maybe turnouts for wildland fires that do not have the chemicals and that type of stuff. i noticed when i met with the fire ambassador from france, who is around, his helmet is very different, shaped a different than ours. i am wondering if our department is looking at that, what is out there. i know tradition is hard to break your in san francisco, the leather helmets and things that are historically a part of our history. i wondered if our department is looking at that? >> yes, we are looking at speaking with manufacturers about different turnout gear, and having some of those chemicals

veronese: in regard to the doctor's appearance here on the 28th. i would suggest that we converse with the city attorney on this. it would be unusual to conduct positive employee evaluation in a public forum. i do not know it is appropriate. it may or may not be. . >> v.p. covington: just for him to come and give a presentation on his department that he oversees. his evaluation will happen the following meeting, in closed session. . >> comm. veronese: that is an important clarification. i appreciate that. i don't wanted to seem like an employee evaluation. we are asking him questions and being critical in a public forum. i don't think that is appropriate, if we do it all. i am thankful for that information. i did not know there was a follow-up meeting where we could actually have cause two appropriate back-and-forth. . >> president nakajo: the reason why we instituted that appearance by the doctor is because of the favor of the commissioners in terms of asking questions, see the good dr. and having him respond. the presentation by the doctor is in

veronese? >> commissioner veronese: can we see the -- >> yes, i will get it to you. >> commissioner veronese: then as far as the chase center is concerned, i'm sure you've run all the scenarios of having different events stacked on top of that one event, right, because you have the baseball stadium there, you have rush hour traffic, you've got, you know, god knows what other you know street closures happening on the weekend there. have you looked at the calendar and kind of run worst-case scenario of what that would be like? >> chief nicholson: yes, we have, absolutely. >> commissioner veronese: i have another thing and i forgot to write it down so i forgot it. i just remembered. in regards to the ongoing discussions you've had with the department of health on the ambulances sitting on hospitals, those are still ongoing? any progress there since our last meeting? >> chief nicholson: so we are gathering data around the time on task stuff and time at the hospital that we were talking about, but m

before we proceed with questions or comments for the record, commissioner veronese he has joined. commissioner cleveland? >> thank you, mr. president. thank you, chief for being here and bringing your talented and experienced team with you. i appreciate it, having worked for many years in the commercial real estate industry here in san francisco, i realize how invaluable your portion of the fire department is to the economy of our city. i appreciate every day what you guys and girls do. thank you for that. i had a couple questions. on the codes update, obviously that impacts all the built environment out there, and you mentioned there was nothing of a big deal, i guess you said, that was being considered currently. can you elaborate? >> that is my perspective. we are cleaning up some language regarding fire escapes, the maintenance of fire escapes, access to fire escapes. we are adding language about personnel that the fire department deems qualified to serve as sprinkler and fire alarm systems in san francisco. >> what does that mean? >> for example, to serve an annual inspection