host: veronique de rugy? guest: changes in eligibility -- as elizabeth has said, children were primarily the target -- were one of the primary targets of these programs. one of the changes in eligibility comes from allowing food stamps programs. parents without children. so they allow people but would be for not be allowed to have access to poverty programs, their access to these programs. host: are we spending enough on anti-poverty programs, on food stamps and other assistance? today i think it is the wrong question. what we want is we want anti- poverty programs to actually achieve anti-poverty and to lead to fewer people being poor. if you measure the effectiveness of poverty programs by how much we spend, it is super effective any sense -- sent the war on poverty has been declared, the united states has spent over $15 trillion. today at the federal level, we spend almost $700 billion on anti-poverty programs. by that measure, we are very effective it. but what you want to look at is whether i actually th

for "tkn," i'm veronique. >> that's all for this week. thanks for joining us. >> we'll see you next time, with more "teen kids news."

for "tkn," i'm veronique. >> that's all for this week. thanks for joining us. >> we'll see you next time, with more "teen kids news." steves: from granada, it's a two-hour drive over the mountains and down into europe's fun-in-the-sun headquarters, the costa del sol. i find this strip of mediterranean coastline generally overbuilt and very commercialized. malaga, the major city of the coast, is a good place to pass through. and almost anything even resembling a quaint fishing village is long gone, replaced by time-share condos and golf courses. the big draw is the beaches. there are plenty of hotels, and sun worshipers enjoy themselves in spite of the congestion and lack of charm or local culture. nearly every country from europe's drizzly north tucks an expatriate community somewhere along this coast. they don't want to leave their culture, just their weather. my favorite costa del sol stop is the resort town of nerja. while capitalizing on the holiday culture, nerja has retained some of its charm. the church fronts the square, which fro