and so this is a real break in the world order. >> treaty of versailles. uh, president mckinley, we've got some deep cuts on history today, and i'm loving it. i want to bring you in, olivia, but i do want to play some bits of what we heard from mike waltz. the president's national security advisor, and marco rubio earlier today in saudi arabia. >> president trump. >> has shifted the entire global conversation from not if the war is going to end, but just how it's going to end. and only president trump can do that is. >> the. >> only leader. >> in the. world who can make this happen, who can even bring people together to begin to talk about it in. >> a serious way? >> is president trump. president trump is the only one that can do it. he's the only leader in the world that could have started a process that we saw here today. >> back to that audience of one. >> yes. and i mean. >> it's a tough theory. >> or thesis. to prove or disprove, but. >> with president. >> trump. >> he is a pretty. transactional person. and i've been talking to republicans who want ai

he writes in the 1920s, he's covering the treaty of versailles, and he knows that americans are not payingican public have a great interest in what happens in versailles, but they're not interested in it. love that. bars from lip bars. and that point is that's replicable. that was true back then. but this, this gap between what's interesting and what we have an interest in, between what grabs our attention and what we should be paying attention to. yeah. the thing that we, you and i, work very hard every day to kind of bring those close together, that in the gap is where i think. >> democracy is in a lot of trouble. >> right now. >> right. and then you go to the fact that we in the press and you are you are pretty blunt about this. i think this and your last book has criticisms of the press, even amidst the challenges we face. and there's so much bad faith criticism that it's easy to get defensive. but when we overdo it and become clickbaity. >> yes. >> then we are a part of the problem rather than the alternative. and just saying this can't be simplified any more than this, so take it or

and he says the american public have a great interest in what happens in versailles, but they're notand that point is that's replicable. that was true back then. but this this gap between what's interesting and what we have an interest in, between what grabs our attention and what we should be paying attention to. yeah. the thing that we, you and i, work very hard every day to kind of bring those close together that in the gap is where i think democracy is in a lot of trouble right now. right. >> and then you go to the fact that we in the press and you are you are pretty blunt about this. i think this and your last book has criticisms of the press, even amidst the challenges we face. and there's so much bad faith criticism that it's easy to get defensive. but when we overdo it and become clickbaity. >> yes. >> then we are a part of the problem rather than the alternative. and just saying this can't be simplified any more than this, so take it or leave it. portlandia has the ultimate comedic commentary on this. take a look. >> did you read that. >> thing in pace? >> it was about the n

he's writing about the treaty of versailles.'re not interested in it. >> so this. >> this and this is the battle, and this is the war footing that has been weaponized and escalated by the platforms. it's an old tension, but it's been made more acute, and it's the terrain on which trump and musk accept. >> okay. but it's easy to believe the lies when they're not impacting or hurting your day to day life. >> yes. although, i mean, the thing that i, i would say is. yes. and when you and i were both here during covid, we both did our level best to try to, like, navigate the complicated information environment. and i would have thought that if there was ever a moment where the meteor hits earth and everyone has to be like, well, it's real, it would have been covid. but even that people were like, no, i don't like the vaccine. >> it got worse, it got worse. where do you think we go from here? >> i think there's a few things happening. one is that i think you have to maintain focus, and i think focus. >> is being whom. >> all of us. fo

raise his spirits and nothing seems to work until he's invited over to a botanist who is working at versailles. and that botanist was working on that top area there, if you can see kind of a cross-check. that's bro. he invited michaud over. he heard about michaud. he understood michaud d farm and he asked me, sure, if you do me a favor, he'd receive these new seeds from afar. and he wanted to see me. sure can conduct an experiment to see if they would grow in french soil, michaud agreed. and next thing he knew the work consoled him and also consumed him. michaud realized he had found his passion. he was a scientist and this sparked that interest in him and the botanist. at first i realized that he had somebody had incredible aptitude. michaud blew me away with his ability to conduct this experiment, and soon he takes michaud under his wing and he becomes his protege. and after he spends a month in vici studying under him, he sent to paris to study at the royal garden. there. and then they are so impressed with him they send michaud over to london to study in the botanical gardens in the uk he

maybe that was a mistake in the versailles treaty because there were germans living there, but that would be the end of it. that was 1938. and we know what happened after that. so you just you you can do your best at the head of state level. you can believe you're the best deal maker in the world. but sometimes hard power realities, national aspirations and understanding what's behind it make a difference. and so i hope that, you know, while we do everything we can to smooth this out at the top level, i hope we don't lose sight of 300 years of russian imperialist expansion of their intelligence agency, the mafia state that they're running, and what the threat is to europe and to the united states, by the way, they do interfere in our elections. >> general wesley clark always valued your input. thank you so much. >> thank you, fredricka. >> and this just in. a woman and a two year old child have died from their injuries after that car plowed into a crowd of demonstrators in munich earlier this week. the deaths were the first reported from the ramming attack. dozens of other people were inj

is not really a name that we think of when we think of like the treaty of paris or the treaty of versailles. so it was also partly a messaging problem. yeah, it doesn't go trippingly off the tongue. yes. so your first book is, as leah said, it's about george washington's cabinet. and in many ways this book about john adams presidency is also about the evolution of the cabinet. so can you talk a little bit about the cabinet that john adams and heritage, which he did and kind of a little bit the story of the evolution of the cabinet in this time period. so washington had established a cabinet model that the cabinet was really designed to support the president. however, the president needed to be supported, and that could be a very flexible institution. and so sometimes he met with the cabinet up to five times per week. other times he didn't meet with them for months and months at a time and preferred written advice or even meeting with advisers outside of the administration. adams came into the administration and always expected that he would have a cabinet because washington had had a cabine

lisa: you want a ram truck in versailles. that is the goal here.see fords in gm's on the streets in europe when you see -- >> you do not >> see many in the u.s.. but you do see mercedes and bmw. you do see range rover's. trump has a problem with europe because 10% is what it costs to do the imports from american cars going into europe. 2.5% is the tariff for european cars coming to the united states. when they say reciprocity, this is what they are talking about. >> do you remember the chicken tax from the 1960's? it annoyed the americans at the time so they put a 25% tariff on trucks, which is why the auto situation is more complex, because there is also a big tariff on trucks. >> do they want chickens? is that what we need to do? jonathan: the point of the chicken tax is once the tariffs go on, for whatever reason they went on, they can stay around for a long time and no one gets around taking them back off. annmarie: biden kept tariffs on when it comes to china and we should note today is when reciprocal tariffs china put on, $14 million of u.s.

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