have now after 1881, of course, once we got electricity here they came up with machines called vertical sheerz. i am going to simulate cutting 80 layers of cloth. 80 layers of cloth would be something about, oh, 3 inches thick. that would be -- it's quite rare to do this using the top of the exaggeration curve. mostly, we would be cutting 35 to 40 layers but i have seen cuts with 80 layers. it represents about 80 layers of material. and the lady's clothing business, it was nylon, rayon, and things like that >> you have to be very careful of the kind of material that you're cutting, because nylon materials were slippery and would move all over the place. you might start out in the front here with a size 40 but by the time you get to the bottom, it could be a size 38 or a 42, and you'd have to have weights on everything that you're cutting. each cutter would be responsible for about three sizes. let's say 32, 34, 36. or 90 for a table there. he had to lay out all his patterns. everything has to fit so that it's not wasting material. so it's going to take him from about 2:00 in the afternoon when