>> vezeau: on these gowns? >> cooper: yeah. >> vezeau: oh, frequently. on a very frequent basis. >> cooper: what kind of complaints? >> vezeau: oh, complaints of strike-through, sleeves falling off, ties falling off. >> cooper: sleeves falling off. >> vezeau: sleeves falling off. sleeves falling off during a procedure. >> cooper: were you at meetings where these problems were discussed? >> vezeau: every time. we were the ones who were telling senior management the problems that we were having. >> cooper: and what was their response? from the c.o.o was, "nobody really cares about this. nobody really cares about surgical gowns." >> chris lowery: yeah, that-- that's-- that's just not true. >> cooper: chris lowery is the "c.o.o." vezeau was talking about, the chief operating officer of halyard health. did you sell protective equipment for ebola that you knew was defective? >> lowery: no. and frankly, i-- i-- i think the allegations aren't based in the facts. >> cooper: you're saying they're completely false? >> lowery: yes. we get less than one complaint for