we took your advice, governor romney, we'd be buying cars from cna instead of creating jobs here via gm and selling cars back to china. that didn't work out. i'm all for paying back the taxpayer, i'm all for gm being profitable. i support them going to china. we have to keep in mind what the president was saying stimulus to create jobs and gm to create jobs. >> we're also hearing about china now buying up all of these failed solar companies and electric battery operators like a123. again, u.s. taxpayers are being used sort of ashe seed corn for chinese jobs and chinese entrepreurs. >> i think that you are falling into the trap of the sunk cost fallacy. you're looking backwards, you're outraged, rightly outraged about the bailout, you simply have to look forward. bmw sold 300,000 luxury cars i china last year. audi 400,000, cadillac on 30,000 and this is just a huge profit opportunity. i don't know why you're so upset about them making a profit. >> we'll tell you why. >> rich, you're treating the $20 billion that taxpayers are still owed like a rounding error. just pooh-pooh. >> the best