. >> clerk: to clarify, commissioner viator, that is an action or discussion? >> to take action. >> twice today -- it caught me a little off guard today. twice staff was kind of indicted. first on community benefits and lack of transparency, and then, on the federal question, honesty and whatever. and normally, i'll be the first one to rise to their defense. as i've sitting here right now, given some of the things that i have pending that are important to us, i -- i'm reluctant to do that. there's times that i talk to harlan about it but i want to let my colleagues know where i feel i'm just going to be totally played. one of the things is this janus decision. it's going to be huge. i've been doing my best to articulate -- and that's why i didn't -- i've been doing my best to articulate the very clear difference between some of the folks that work for us that have computers and college degrees and everything else and some of the folks that work for us that don't have access to those things. and when i'm talking to staff about the most progressive mechanism for