tell me about viaweb. the idea, at the time, was quite revolutionary.aul: well, the reason the company was called viaweb, is that the software worked via the web. right? it was what is now known as a web app. it was the first one. it was an online store builder and got bought by yahoo!. and eventually became -- still is -- yahoo!'s store. emily: what was it like working at yahoo!? how long did you last there? the guy who was suspended every year. paul: i was basically getting suspended from yahoo!, too. i hereby apologize to all the people i have ever worked for. i barely lasted a year. emily: you went on to write. you started writing essays at paulgraham.com. paul: yeah. emily: and that's when you started building your following. paul: i suppose so. i didn't really think i was building a following. emily: what were you writing about? paul: i started just writing about software, and i gradually realized that no one would come and drag me away if i started writing about other things, too. emily: at what point did you guys meet? jessica: we met at a party