on the streets of cairo simultaneously vichy collaborator being strangled industry. nobody said oh, my god, how come they don't have a trial for the vichy collaborator? both ideas seem like they were just as, also revenge. most of the not see war criminals were prosecuted, number, ended up dying or spent their lives in jail. they essentially were punished but we conducted a trial. but in the same regard the same way we treated say osama bin laden, right clicks could easily talk about, could been kidnapped and brought back to the united states to stand trial. he was shot in it and even said that's just it. but isn't it also revenge? doesn't courtroom -- ways khalid sheikh mohammed sitting in guantÁnamo bay and he is still, still hasn't had his military commission concluded. and you have osama bin laden shot in it. in both cases they both seem vengeful. >> what was that? please turn that off. >> i'll put in a provocative way. is there any secret of the discussion were having with the justice, highlighted international relations, which is when a crime is committed wheth