the state of north carolina you must either be a licensed attorney in this state or admitted prohock vici, to my knowledge frp several attorneys who were purporting to represent members of the family who were not either one of those things, either licensed attorneys or admitted pro hoc. i have an obligation not to deal with someone represented by counsel without dealing with counsel. that put a barrier between myself and the brown family one that i think in all honesty, we could have done a better job to repair that relationship prior to this, and it is -- it's unfortunate and i don't like the way that played out. yes, sir. >> the sheriff's office has a use of force policy. shots fired at a moving vehicle involved, additional considerations at risk, when feasible deputies should take reasonable steps to move out of the path of the vehicle instead of discharging the firearm at the vehicle or at its occupants. did that play a role in your decision today? >> i am aware of it, i have a copy of it, and no, it did not. in the back. >> i'm john king in washington, welcome, everybody, you've been