as to vicki hennessy, vicki hennessy was a political appointee of mayor lee. to the issue of whether they are redundant, michael hennessey can provide testimony that relates to the charges. is not clear how the key hennessey, her testimony is in any way relevant. on page four of the list of fact witnesses under vicki hennessy, she testified about the role of the sheriff. the role of the sheriff again as the conversation we had about paul henderson, that is not relevant to the actual charges and as to the actual charges, there are no actual counts. it is nine pages of a narrative save it. what would request the production of a bill of prison -- particulars as to what exactly the charges are so we can defend against them. and the mayor and city attorney can say what -- which charge the witness would allegedly testified to? on tiki hennessy, i am fine with the suggestion of commissioner hayon. the prejudice of having vicki hennessy is not high. if she is going to testify on the matters that are listed here. i agree. i do not think it is relevant. i am in the mino