he came close in vicksburg but a petersburg crater was disaster. anything else? one more. so much.you this talk was wonderful today. prior to this when they were names the phrase that came to my mind was reconciliation. what is crazy thought of if we had people from missouri here to talk about this and reconciliation for the pain and suffering maybe sides.h and i also recall that there in lawrence groups of survivors. we have wonderful pictures of them. also reunion raiders and cho's an interesting article so even ing on is there reconciliation we have today about the civil war because of the controversy with, direction, federal monuments. it seems like there is a lot of still be done and we have a little border war the people jock about it but -- joke is a real -- here to a point of animosity. think there were some city council in missouri where they lawrence,resolution by wasn't that right? >> that was the university of kansas ceased to use the jay their mascot. why don't we reconcile between kansas and missouri and nation? it is a good question. are a unique kind of war

other battlefield and the rest of the other two battlefields we have not mentioned are shiloh and vicksburg, they all have commissions. commissions made up of numerous people, a department person -- war department person, and veteran that fought at those battles. that's not the case at antietam. henry is on the board enough commission. part of its politics and money is all wrapped into it together. >> i want to go back to dr. carmichael's question. ae portrayal of union as , is ation for soldiers clear that the motivation of the soldiers changed over the years. [indiscernible] depthnot anyway touch the of the standing of the union of the concept of democracy. [indiscernible] it's funny you mention gettysburg. the question is how could you say it is union when the portrayal for decades has celebrated the bravery of at therate soldiers expense of the concept of the union. prof. janney: the quick answer is that was not the case for the first several decades of gettysburg being developed. we're talking about what union veterans and the descendents thought is different. memory changes over time.

and this is directed at the other to the about a feels that we have not mentioned are shallow and vicksburg, and they all have commissions. commissions that are made up of numerous people, a war department person, a confederate veteran that fought at those particular battles. that's not even the case here at antietam. henry is on the board and not the commission. part of its is money and part of it is politics and it is all wrapped into it together. >> i want to go back to doctor carmichael's question. there is a couple of factors that at the pointed out, the portrayal of union as a motivation for the soldiers, and again, let me make it clear, that the motivation of the soldiers changed over the four years as opposed to the confederate soldiers of war. it does not in any way touch the depth of the understanding of the union soldiers as to the concept of a healthy democracy. the vast amount of material about confederate and union soldiers and even the portrayal , and is funny you mention gettysburg, and he -- and if you're from the unit, and you take up for the unit with the the trail at get

this is vicksburg.ee statewide espy slightly ahead. 54% of the vote here, just to give you a sense of that means, compare that to what democrats typically do here. hillary clinton got 48% here in 2016. the interesting one is in 2012. barack obama, barack obama, kind of the high watermark for democrats in mississippi. obama got 44% statewide. the thing you want to keep in mind as the county results come in tonight is espy running on average six points or better above what obama did in 2012. so you see in warren county, there is improvement there forspy over what has been the high watermark for democrats. it's four. on average, he needs to get six. it's not six. but then look up here we flagged this one earlier. 60% of the vote in desoto county. this one of the largest counties in the state. this a very republican county. take a look here at what we've seen in the past. this is a big jump here. clinton's 31% last time around, espy at 46. that high watermark for a democrat, obama in 2012. 33, espy at 46. w

>> the fault at vicksburg on may 22. him withy has proven respect to his own self interest right in being guarded. fans onve two hockey our panel. i know almost of a rebel sport. one of our panelists asked the question i vaguely understand. job wouldapproaches the 1982 islanders on the 20 -- or the 2016 penguins? hopefully we have some hockey fans in the audience they get it. how was his approach to the job reflected in these two teams? >> islanders won the stanley cup in 1983. it was 35 years ago. it was a long time ago, which classifies as memoir. advisement when brooks starts talking. >> the pittsburgh penguins never won the stanley cup until they acquired the services of islanders center. idea what this question is supposed to mean. years -- war took four i would not ask that kind of question. the civil war took four years. you need someone to win for four years in a row that would complete the job. not someone for just one year or two years. would have choked in the 30 year or fourth year. washington capitals fans,

this is vicksburg on the mississippi river here. you can see just compare to it 2012. obama got 50% here. espy getting 55 tonight. this is a completed county. this is the only one where we got 100% reporting right now, and espy is running 5 points better with 100% than obama did in 2012. he needs six points on average statewide. >> that's fascinating. steve kornacki, thank you, my friend. please peep if there are any changes we need to know about while we continue our broadcast this hour. >>> all right. to the other major story we've been watching unfold over the course of this afternoon into this evening. as you know, on the morning after the midterm elections, president trump fired attorney general jeff sessions and installed in his place mat whitaker to be acting attorney general. given whitaker's previous record of highly critical statements about robert mueller and the russia investigation, and mr. whitaker's otherwise thin and sort of troubled resume that by no stretch of the imagination would make him a contender to be the attorney general of the united states i