this is mercedes-benz. >>> "vanity fair's" vicky ward is still with us. joining us is private investigator to make this even more interesting, let's reset the stage. sheryl weinstein, the ceo of this hadassah fwrup, when the madoff ponzi scheme broke in court, she was interviewed. she said he was a beast. she forgot to tell us that she had a 20-year affair. so it was a beastly affair, pat. i want to know, i'm interested in pillow talk, 20 years on the same pillow, am i to believe this wharton mba professional lady got no information from madoff's operation? none? >> not for one microsecond, larry, do i believe. not for one second do i believe. we have to do the math. 20 years. let's just approximate they saw each other a couple times a week. let's make it two. three hours a shot, okay, give the beast from the east a little latitude. so we have six hours times 52 times 20 years, 10,000 hours? >> okay, guys. >> these are probably sleepaways, right? >> they're afternoon trysts. afternoon trysts. i read somewhere -- >> while ruth was in the office. >> well, n

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with us now contributing editor for "vanity fair" vicky ward. of a billion doll billion dollar madeoff. his company defended the actions saying, quote, that he's trying to sell the yacht and has been on board with perspective buyers. been on the boat. >> not any longer. i think with some help from you, joe, come on. we were here discussing this last week. he was planning a cruise with some friends of he was going to pick them up and he called and said this is very annoying woman, vicky ward, who keeps mentioning the fact that i'm on my boat. it's too embarrassing to go on this cruise given that, you know, lost $7 billion in the bernie madoff scheme so the cruise is canceled. he's off the boat. so it did its work. >> are they still trying to sell the yacht? >> yes, they are. >> what's the asking price? harold and i were thinking about going into boating. >> i was told 22 million euros. i spoke to somebody who went and had a look. and like everything, you can get it on the cheapchristie, you wa yacht? >> i'm the person that sold the "playboy" jet.

with us now, contributing editor of "vanity fair," vicki ward, who wrote in the "huffington post."ler there. would no doubt be outrage in the streets of america. we should be proud they live in a place where protest is still vibrant, unlike my father, they don't feel hopelessly depressed. as for me on behalf of my countrymen, i apologize. thank you so much for that apology. let me ask you, though, whether the prime minister was as outraged that this deal was done in the first place? >> clearly not. it took him several days to say anything at all. >> are we going to find out he was part of the deal or his government was part of the deal in exchange for huge oil reserves? >> well, if the british journalists do their work, we should. nobody in the british media is buying the british government's excuse that it was the scottish decision, they had absolutely nothing to do with it. gordon brown with gadhafi at the g8 meeting a few days earlier, the release of this man has been on the table between libya and britain for years. i don't think anyone is buying britain's denial, we're waiting

ward boss in those communities. >> i went out with somebody from chick a pea once. let me ask you, congressman, about vicki kennedy. we haven't talked about her. ted kennedy's second wife. his first marriage ended badly with joan. vicki seems to be someone who really gave him a second effort in life. not just in politics. >> you know, vicki for the last 17 or 18 years, has been inseparable from ted kennedy. i cannot think of a single place that i saw ted kennedy that i did not see vicki, as well. they became a team, a partnership. and because of that, he became even greater than he had been in the past. and vicki is as much of this story as is the senator because they did create that partnership, that made it possible for him to become the greater senator of all time. >> congressman, our condolences from msnbc and everybody here to you, sir. i know how close you are and to the parents of vicki and vicki who has been an amazing loving spouse. i think she gave him that booster rocket. >> if i could just say this, you and i know where we were when jack kennedy died. we know where we were when bobby kennedy di