what do you make of the withdraw of victor char and the bloody nosed strategy if that is, in fact, somethingt takes place. >> first, victor was the director of east asian affairs when i was handling the affairs there. he was a colleague i think the world will have to say i am sorry he's not going to be in that position or some other important position in the trump administration because i think he's first rate. as to the strategy, it's hard for me to tell, if this is a bargaining move, if what the president is doing is trying to persuade the north koreans that we do have military action on the table, that if they push the president too hard, he'll strike back. that's probably a good diplomatic move to take, to sober up kim jong-un and i think that may well be what he's doing. try to get the north koreans a bit scared. try to get the chinese more motivated to help pressure north korea. if that's what he's doing, it's a good strategy. >> okay. but do you think that if they do do a bloody nose attack that that's a good strategy. victor char who you highly respect would be putting at risk the me