how did everything lose my guess this week is victor dow, former interpreted to the late chinese, the, the den shell ping vice president. the sense of the china and globalization in beijing and alden promoter of the people's republic were also joined by ex, but panel here in london, conway hole, and the live audience who were going to hear from shortly victor before we get to the audience. in 2019 on this very show, i asked the question is changing, been gearing up to be president for life dictates in chief. i mean he's the most powerful leader of china since now. he's abolished presidential term limits. he's now in his 3rd 5 year term as president, sol off again tonight. is he now president for life a true dictate? for the recall? first of all, chinese president, she didn't, people will never be present for life. there will be a time limit when it will be, will be, had no, according to the chinese legal system and constitution. secondly, there is no dictator in china. why? because dictatorship simply doesn't work. democracy means modernization. and how can you explain per find or tra