ah, let's bring in our guests sin badging. victor gow is the vice president of the center for china and globalization in hong kong. andrew lee, young and international, an independent china strategist, and in, in albany in u. k. steven vines, the author of the book, defying the dragon, hong kong and the world's largest dictatorship. a very warm welcome to each of you, andrew. i'd like to start with you. she's power remain strong inside the c. c. pay that certainly not in doubt, but what about outside it? are the tides turning against she domestically and internationally? well, this is a natural, almost development and even you. ready a panda would become a 1000000 pounds and then your presence and your influence, or of course raise concerns of and then psyche and your labor or your challenger overseas rival. but i think that the c s is taking this seem to be taking china. ready to a higher plane, a lot of the, the western media is concentrating on certain specific aspects like the cold with the. ready alex 0 policy and complete control with mark. so i want, but actually in speech is muc