when with tighter and tighter budgets that's certainly something one revenue source they look at victor matheson from the college of the holy cross we thank you victor pretty appreciate good to see you again. up thanks for having me i'll be back any time. and we're going to squeeze in a brief break here but hang because when we return we look at the black beauty commodity coal which is seen a real recent rise i'll be joined by jim thompson of i.h.s. market watch archie course want to truly charges joins us from fifth avenue in manhattan to tell us about how some big brands are actually burning their garments and how some may be taking enough out of it as we go to break here are the numbers at the closing bell back in a flash. i think we can agree that the decision to intervene in libya was perhaps too quickly taken but we also know that the libya crisis today as we see it at least as i see it is a multifaceted crisis because it's a political crisis it's a security crisis and it's an economic crisis so i think the main problem of the post twenty eleven transition was to put complete emphasis on t