even though he was a republican, and endorsed barack obama to be the president of the united states. it was a very very significant moment, and victor, you will appreciate this, especially. correct me if i'm wrong, you went to howard university, is that right? >> i certainly did. >> and you know that he was on the board of howard university like you and me, he is a b biso i'm proud of that. whenever i would go to howard university events at the board or others, he was there, he had an enormous role to play making sure that the students of howard university, and other universities around the country would get an opportunity to do what he did. he was so grateful to this country for giving him that opportunity, the education he got at city college in new york. he wanted to give back, and always inspired me at these meetings to see him in action. >> enthusiastic supporter of howard university, other hbcus, and it's always good to see you, fellow bison, wolf blitzer. thank you so much. >> i'm a proud bison indeed. >> i know you are. >> let's turn to fred mcclure, the executive director of the leadership initiative at texas a&m university