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right, "the new york times" having a terrifying article about many of my friends now under sway of victor orbans? eddie brought it up, you're bringing it up. why have we become so much more illiberal over the past decade? >> anything we discuss about what's going on on the right or you think these people aren't open to logic, you have to understand the same thing is going on on the left, the same closed mind to logic in allegiance to larger ideals that actually don't make much sense if you hold them up to the light. and it doesn't make it okay on the left because supposedly it's about black people. it's just as bad and it actually hurts black people. but, yes, it's spread everywhere. i'm not sure ten years ago was paradise. social media has a lot to do with it, the fact that it brings us together. there is nothing we've seen in a very long time that discourages long form attention to graceful argument than looking at pictures online and slogans online all day. so, yeah, this is a general scourge and i don't know if i can compare whether it's more important on january 6th than in terms of what's