victor teroni. many good ideas here. let me add one more. so is let's suppose a decision is made in tax reform to lower rates, broaden the base, probably lower the corporate tax rate. i am skeptical that this is going to satisfy the current law baseline, come up with the revenues we need, or do an up on the distribution. so about a year ago, i wrote an article in "tax notes" describing the progressive expenditure tax. this would be a supplemental expenditure tax. it's a little different from what is suggested in bob carroll's book, which i haven't read yet, but look forward to. and i think it would be great if we -- we can't do it here, but in a subsequent event to look into these alternatives and to see, you know, how can we actually do it if we decided that we wanted to. thank you. >> okay. did i see somebody raise their hand in the back, by the way? okay, two. and then joe, i'll get around to you. >> i'm rebecca wilkins. i'm with citizens for tax justice. i think we need to embrace taxmaggedon, or as bruce calls it, tax-majinon. it's almo