victor has been repeating. i'm amara walker. >> i'm victor blackwell. good to be with you. you're in the cnn newsroom. president biden has laid out plan b to provide student loan relief to millions of borrowers. the supreme court ended the term yesterday with two highly controversial rulings one was seen as a major setback for gay rights and the other was forgiving billions of students loans. the ruling came as a blow to millions of americans counting on it. and give $20,000 to relief with those struggling with outstanding debt. cnn white house reporter jasmine wright joining us with more. jasmine, what do we know about this alternate plan that president biden is laying out? >> reporter: president biden made it clear yesterday that he believed that the supreme court misinterpreted the constitution when they struck down the signature student debt forgiveness program and frankly he believes they got it wrong and president biden says while friday's decision closes one path, he will seek another. now the new path is grounded in the higher education act of 1965, and a different law that the white house believes provides president biden with authority to do that widespread student debt cancellation that he has promised as a campaign promise. but they say that it will take a long time. it will take months, really, to get it off the ground, and they wouldn't say whether or not the 40 million estimated to be impacted by the struckdown law would also be impacted by this new path. still though, in the interim, for president biden to get this new pathway off the ground, he says he is doing two things. first of all, when it comes to repayment, he will focus on income-based repayment and secondly, he is going to provide a 12-month repayment program as you see on your screen here. that is really designed to give borrowers the ability to be ready to pay down student debt. it is expected to start again in october. and while interest will incur over the 12-month program the theory is if you miss a payment or you're in the able to pay, you will not be penalized or default or credit will not be impacted for the 12-month grace period. another thing going on that we saw president biden do on friday, he slammed the republican talking point that it was actually him who misstated what his ability and what his authority would be to actually provide that widespread debt relief. take a listen. >> i didn't give any false hope. the question was, whether or not i would do even more than was requested. what i did, i felt, was appropriate, and able to be done, and would get done. i didn't give false hope. but the republicans snatched away the hope that they were given, and it's real. real hope. >> now, that last line where president biden said that republicans snatched away real hope of americans that is going to be important going forward, because he believes that republicans snatched away that hope and it made voters and borrowers downright angry and he hopes to harness that anger about the supreme court's decision and also other supreme court decisions made in the last week, asking about the 2024 re-election season and saying that republicans are trying strip away individual rights and that's why americans should put him in office for one more term. >> thank you very much. >>> joining me is arnie duncan, former education secretary under president obama. mr. secretary, thank you for joining us. let's start with what we learned there, and go over the higher education act of 1965, which gives the secretary of education authority to compromise, waive, or release any right, title, lien, or demand, do you think the white house has a better shot of canceling student debt through this law than they did through the heroes act? >> i think obviously we have to pursue every possible avenue, and it is just heartbreaking, to be very clear, the supreme court delivered two gut punches to the american people this week, by not allowing that debt for over 40 million people to be reduced, and also what they did with affirmative action. so president biden had no choice, he's got to look at every possible path, every everybody to provide that debt relief. what happens to the american public this week, there's no upside there. everybody loses. >> i want to talk about affirmative action in just a moment. but one more here on cancellation of student debt. there was some democrats who told the president upfront that if you wanted to do this, to use the higher education act of 1965, and do not go through the heroes act, of course, we all know that former speaker pelosi said that she didn't believe the president had this authority through the heroes act. do you think it was a mistake to use the heroes act to try to forgive the $400 billion worth of student loan debt? >> i don't think it was a mistake, just let me give you two very concrete reasons why this is so important to happen, and there are many hundreds of reasons, but first, as you know, we have a massive black/white wealth gap in this country, white families have six, seven, eight times as much money as black families and we know that black families have less resources, they take out more debt, so going forward, the cost of going to college, that debt actually exacerbates the divide between black and white families. it is very unfair. the second thing, we have a massive teacher shortage, that is going to get worse as we move forward, particularly as so many teachers are retiring due to age and due to the challenges of the pandemic. teaching is not a lucrative profession. many young people want to go into teaching, that's where their heart and passion is but they can't afford that debt. and had we relieved that debt, we would give them more hope, but with that option going away for now, that has a really chilling effect on young people thinking about going into education so we're really cutting off our noses deto spite our faces here. i truly don't understand it. >> let's turn what to what you call the second punch from the supreme court and that is ending race as a consideration in admissions to colleges and universities. they didn't outlaw trying to reach diversity at these universities, but they say that schools need to move to race neutral standards. are you having difficulty hearing me? now we got a frozen shot here. secretary duncan, you got me now? all right, so we'll try to figure that out, if we can get the secretary back up, then we'll of course continue the conversation, just when we're getting to the affirmative action portion, but if we cannot, our thanks to former secretary of education arne duncan. >>> turning now to another story new this morning, according to the "washington post," in late 2020, former president trump called then arizona governor doug doocy in an attempt to pressure him in overturning the state's presidential election results citing multiple people familiar with the call, the former president claimed if enough fraudulent votes were found it would overcome the narrow loss in the state. the post reporting that trump repeatedly asked then vice president mike pence to pressure doocy as well, into helping him stay in power. of course, governor doocy did not go through with that plan and certify president biden win in arizona. here with me now is "washington post" investigative reporter josh dawsey, thanks for joining us here. tell us more about what you learned because there is so much focus on the one call in january of 2021, when trump called the georgia secretary of state but now we know about another phone call that trump apparently made, who did you talk to for the story and what do we know about the details of the call? >> we know in that frenzied period right after the election, former president trump was trying to pressure officials in multiple states, brad raffensperger in georgia being the most famous of the calls but there was a campaign call with the governor of arizona that was elaborate and at the time he certified the results and the former president wasn't happy and he called him and laid out a whole range of unsubstantiated fraud theories and asked mike pence to call several times as well to try to convince him to go along with his effort to overthrow the 2020 election. governor doocy did not do that. if you remember, former president trump was quite nasty to him on twitter and on social media and you know, live on television, called him all sorts of names and attacking his integrity. >> and what do we know about mike pence's role in this? >> so what we know is the former president trump asked mike pence to keep calming on doocy to look for evidence. pence and doocy have a close relationship, knew each other before the white house, and mike pence made several calls to the governor of arizona asking him, do we have any fraud, have you found anything, and every time, governor doosy said no, and mike pence went back to former president trump and reported back, and he would not going to overturn the election in arizona, the governor wasn't. >> do we know about the special counsel looking into president trump's interference in the 020 election, if he is look nook the specific call that trump made to the then arizona governor? >> we know that he's been asking witnesses about various calls to state officials, like we reported in the story, we don't know if governor doocy has had any sort of outreach from the special counsel's office himself. but one of the things that the special counsel's office has repeatedly asked witnesses for is any evidence of former president trump pressuring folks, governors, lawmakers, and others, to overturn the election in 2020. >> you know what i found interesting, too, in your reporting is that this phone call from trump to then governor doocy came during a live stream throughout the state in the middle of him signing these documents, certifying biden's win in the state. >> governor doocy didn't answer that phone call to be clear. he called him back later. he called as the governor was on live stream, at a podium about, to sign biden's win, obviously the former president did not want him to do that call at that time. >> you report that according to one republican donor, doocy did talk to him about the quote-unquote pressure that he was under from trump. >> yes, governor doocy never publicly outlined what was said in this call, but since he left office, he has been telling donors, political associates, people that he meets with, about the sort of elaborate campaign, and he said to his donor, over in arizona earlier this year, he was surprised that the special counsel's office has not reached out to him yet, and that the pressure campaign from the former president was pretty extensive. >> really appreciate your reporting and you coming on, josh dawsey, thank you. >>> holiday weekend is here. millions of people are hitting the roads and going to airports. severe weather could impact travel. if you're still planning to 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family, first generation family, but i never want to be cynical, but the fact, as you know, they carved out the military academy to make them an exception, somehow saying that adversity matters in the military, but making no acknowledgment that diversity matters in our corporations, in our board rooms, in our law offices, in our hospitals, in our classrooms, diversity makes all of us better, so to carve out that small exception to what they're saying for me just undermines any, any theoretical credibility they might have and makes no sense whatsoever. >> so we have a hin at least, or a forha doe of what this means, california in 1996, through the adoption of prop 209, they ended affirmative action in public universities and colleges. there was a study completed in 2020, and i want to read some of the findings from the university of california system they conducted, underrepresented minorities applicants became at least 40% less likely to be admitted to uc's more selective berkeley and ucla campuses, and the average underrepresented minority, uc ap pant, wages declined by 5% annually, between ages 24 and 34. and by the mid 2010s, there was a cumulative decline in the number of early career underrepresented california minorities overall earning by $100,000 by at least 3%. so when we see the impact of these policies, extrapolate from those what this means on a national scale for a societally. >> we can't afford to let that happen again. and so we have to fight that in terms of how we look at populations that may be more disconnected and underrepresented and challenge universities to do that. let me sort of step back, bigger picture, why this is so ludicrous and so disheartening. if you look at the percent of black students at harvard or yale or prince tons, 6, 7, 8%, small numbers but we've had affirmative action for a long time, it has just been for the white and wealthy and if you look at the universities and the number of leg since family members who have gone there, or relationships to donors, those numbers are much higher, so if you were really trying to challenge, quote-unquote, privilege, a level playing field, that's the fight you would have taken on. not the small percent of black students. and then if you look at some of the major flag ship universities, particularly go down south, the university of tennessee, the university of alabama, the university of mississippi, those states are 25, 30, 35% african american, but those universities, the population of black students is often 8, 9, 10%, vastly underrepresented. so if you really wanted to challenge, you know, unfairness and privilege, that is where you would have gone, instead, the supreme court took on the most vulnerable population, and again, it is not just about more diversity, for african americans, that diversity makes all of us better, makes our businesses better, makes our schools better, makes our law firms better, makes our hospitals better, and that's only possible, that's only possible if the doors of the universities remain open for all. >> former secretary of education under president obama arne duncan, thank you. >>> holiday weekend travel is in full swing this morning, and aaa expects 50 million americans to travel on the road ors in the skies through wednesday. if you're traveling by car, we do have some good news for you at the pump. the average gas price is now $3.50. which is $1 cheaper than prices at this time last year. if you are flying this weekend, make sure to get to the airport early. you can see there's long lines and they've been forming already this morning, at atlanta's hartsfield jackson airport. so far today, over 1,000 flights have been delayed across the country but only 100 have been ultimately canceled. as for the weather, it is a mixed bag, from extreme heat, with feels-like temperatures reaching 115 degrees, to severe weather producing hail and each some tornadoes. cnn meteorologist allison chinchar is joining us to break down the biggest risks this morning. tell us what we need to know. >> right now, we have rain that is making its way through the midwest, as we speak. storms already occurring, a live look at cincinnati, you can see the heavy rain coming down on this camera. temperature right now 74. two rounds across the midwest. the first cluster in indianapolis, and cincinnati and making its way through fort wayne and you have other areas with some showers and showers popping up, mississippi, texas, and even areas of the carolinas, and then the secondary wave will move through later on this afternoon, and we have another potential for some strong to severe storms, damaging winds, large hail and a few tornadoes possible, any where you see the colors possible and the secondary area located on the portion of texas, western texas and eastern new mexico. the first round, the second round behind it, this afternoon, and into the evening, and then when we push forward into sunday, the bulk of that begins to spread into the mid atlantic, the northeast, but we also have more showers and thunderstorms across the southeast as well. so a lot of areas here, if you're dealing with travel, you are likely going to experience some delays, mostly on the roads, but even in the air, you could start to see some delays and cancellations, especially as those severe thunderstorms fire up. two separate areas here dealing with heat, we're talking about excessive heat warnings and heat advisories across much of the south, especially the gulf coast region and then to the west, pretty expansive heat starting to take shape there. across the gulf coast, most of the temperatures still ahead, but we're starting to see light at the end of the tunnel, dallas today, still in the triple digits, but finally back down into only double digits, and for the rest of the week, we'll get there too, for new orleans and mobile but likely an extra day or two before we see that drop. the opposite is going to happen out into the west where the numbers are going to keep going up. salt lake, las vegas, those numbers going back into the mid 110s, over the next few day, and likely to stay there this week. >> allison chinchar, thank you. >>> the tsa projects that it will screen more than 17.7 million people over the long holiday weekend. cnn has more from newark airport in new jersey. we checked in a little earlier today, maybe people are up, and getting later in the morning flight, how is it looking around you? >> well, if you want to avoid problems, certainly the experts recommend getting to the airport as early as possible. and some of the passengers i've been speaking to have done exactly that. this is newark airport, one of the busiest in the entire country, and also a hub for united airlines which has had a really hard time recovering after all of though massive delays and cancellations from last week. now, more about united airlines in just a minute. first, let's talk about what we are expecting, you guys mentioned it at the top, aaa estimated at least 50 million people will take to the roads, and travel by air, during this busy holiday weekend. by the time it is all said and done, the tsa estimates they will have screened 17 million passengers. now, i spoke to some of those passengers here this morning, they have told me despite last week's meltdowns, so far, things are going well for them. >> we're here about three hours early, and then it was delayed 45 minutes, so i think we're in good timing. >> delayed. it's delayed about 30 minutes. >> zero problems whatsoever. i've seen a bunch of stuff on social media, people in airports for days, but, no i got lucky. >> reporter: so victor, amara, perhaps it is because it is still early in the day and things are in a good mood and things haven't melted down just yet. let's talk about united airlines, as i mentioned, they have struggled to recover after last week, weather delay, staffing shortages caused a lot of cancellations and delays and left passengers stranded, all around the country. now, as of last night, they were still dealing with at least 1300 delays, and 251 cancellations. and adding insult to injury here, the ceo of united airlines, forced to issue an apology to customers and his employees, after it was revealed that he flew on a private jet from peter broe airport, which is not far from where we are right now, as that meltdown was unfolding right here at newark airport. he issued the following statement, taking a private jet was a wrong decision because it was insensitive to our customers who were waiting to get home. i sincerely apologize to our customers and our team members who have been working around
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