i tried to be very clear in the book that she and victoria earl matthews were not released on reporters. they were really there white women of these hugely popular papers of the time. mike world than your journal. they were much for ida b wells owned her own press at one time purchase self published a lot of books. what i think smart moving moments of the book matthews in this cohort of women in new york in 1892 raised money to fund the publications first book. after she's driven out of memphis where she lives because of the nature of her lynching reporting. >> want to look at them not as reporters but women who really lived the heart of their lives at the same time as these reporters and were making different innovations in investigative journalism. but literally at the same time. and it was interesting to see, there also pretty much the same age. it was interesting to see how similar societal factors were, working on that. there was one moment the realization i had, ida b wells all get married within a few months of each other. in the summer of 1895. surely speculation on my part, i d