yet, you look at victoria nuland. she said she had serious concerns on the talking points about arming members of congress to start making assertions to the media that can be abused by members to be the state department for not paying attention to agency warnings. that is clearly a concern about their reputation. have -- we also have a memo, is masses information out there, particularly in congress. the fact response to that we need to correct the record." they wanted to use this for political purposes and frame their nature of the debate. victoria nuland finally says "this does not resolve all my issues." my building leadership. who is the leadership she is talking about? the seventh floor, who on the seventh floor? then we go to the e-mail from general petraeus. you quoted him at the very end. i had never known anyone who was a leader of any department who was more controlling than general petraeus. that she seems so passive. "this is not what vice-chairman ruppersberger was hoping to get." why was general petraeus

yet, you look at victoria nuland. she said she had serious concerns on the talking points about arming members of congress to start making assertions to the media that can be abused by members to be the state department for not paying attention to agency warnings. that is clearly a concern about their reputation. we have -- we also have a memo, "there is masses information out there, particularly in congress. this is a response to the fact that we need to correct the record." they wanted to use this for political purposes and frame their nature of the debate. victoria nuland finally says "this does not resolve all my issues." or those of my building leadership. who is the leadership she is talking about? the seventh floor, who on the seventh floor? then we go to the e-mail from general petraeus. you quoted him at the very end. i had never known anyone who was a leader of any department who was more controlling than general petraeus. and yet he says that she seems so passive. "this is not what vice-chairman ruppersberg

well it was a it was a good try in other words victoria nuland the assistant secretary of state apparently thought if she gave chocolate chip cookies on the mind that everything would turn out all right with yachts coming in as the interim prime minister no yachts did become the interim prime minister but not everything turned out all right and she should have known better and i think she did know better and that's why he keeps saying that her all to mitt intention was to create a very hostile environment between moscow and washington but i mean i think you're referring to the conversation that we'll all heard between victoria nuland when she was actual laying out a plan for how the ukrainian government should look it doesn't like it looks a lot like what she wanted it to look now or is it a coincidence well it does for the nonce for the time being. one would have thought that once that conversation which were shows direct. right shows direct american meddling in ukraine affairs once that was on you tube a decent respect for the opinions of mankind would have prevented you had seen you fro

"for senate panel thursday, assistant secretary of state victoria nuland said the u.s. has launched a truth telling campaign on ukraine. >> one cannot match the kind of money and effort in a close society that rush is putting into this, but we can certainly help our friends and partners debunk lies, get the straight story out. we have redirected a great amount of public diplomacy funds to mounting our own truth telling campaign. was caught onland tape earlier this year favoring certain officials to replace grainy president viktor yanukovych, before he was ousted in a coup. her apparent favorite is now interim prime minister. he is in yanukovych his hometown today in a bid to ease tensions with pro-russian demonstrators who have occupied a government building. totaiwan, police have moved expel protesters who have been occupying parliament for more than three weeks in opposition to a new trade pact with china. hundreds of protesters left on thursday after the head of parliament agreed to keep the man's. but hundreds more had remained overnight. movement,he sunflower and c

and we know from the e-mails particularly from victoria nuland that is then referenced by my colleagues from the date stamp time again at 9:24 p.m. ms. newland wrote that the problem remains. her superiors were unhappy. the changes that were made did not resolve all of my issues are those of my building leadership. we also know ben rose from the national security foreign policy further advised the group. the issues were solved the following morning at the white house. at the white house saturday before ms. rice went on the sunday morning shows. they were resolved overnight. they were resolved in favor of the white house and what is really odd here is the false narrative given on sunday morning on the sunday morning shows somehow strangely added up the view of the white house six weeks before the presidential election that al-qaeda was nearly defeated and the global war on terror was over. everyone on this committee knows that wasn't true that al-qaeda was not defeated. everyone on this committee both sides of the aisle know the global war on terror was not over. that was the narrative o

east of ukraine this is graham phillips from kramatorsk and the assistant secretary of state victoria nuland says that america has invested five billion dollars in ukraine but insists none of it want to support my don you can keep across all the developments in the ukrainian crisis with us here on r.t. international also via our online news team that has a minute by minute set of coverage for you that's r.t. dot com. the in the. it's off the international portugal's economy is healing as it prepares to shake free of its bailout shackles and that optimistic outlook is from the international monetary fund the latest numbers are looking pretty good as well we've got economic growth on the up turret summer and exports as well on the rise while on employment appears to be falling and certainly looks good on paper but earlier i spoke to a farmer about it he's just returned from assignment in portugal. those numbers sound good don't they but you have to remember that even if portugal does manage to clean exit from this bailout program next month it still has an awful lot of problems it's running a

well and as victoria nuland wanted. are saying yes you know it is now the prime minister interim prime minister in ukraine and again in light of all these statements one has to ask if the u.s. is in light of the crisis in ukraine right or rather one has to ask if the u.s. is trying to shift the blame a little bit on on europe but this point he's going to educate on live from washington d.c. again i thank you very much indeed for that report. the leader of the rightwing dutch freedom party get realtor's believes the e.u. didn't understand the complications of the situation in ukraine before getting involved his interview with l.c. say future nerves it will be aired on friday but he has approved. the european union and that's very unwise wants to xpand it wants to have all the europhiles and brussels wants to have more more and more members and they forget that it's not only about themselves everybody even a child could see that ukraine is was not a country where ninety nine percent of the people supported the idea by joi

over again a country torn apart and you know you do see the united states and we mention the victoria nuland phone conversation as evidence of what the united states' role in this potentially what they were trying to achieve and look at what often happens in these kind of situations you find the people on the ground the very people the citizens of the country and the nation are the ones who are left with you know picking up the pieces i do think it's a very serious situation not only the refugee crisis but the economic situation and again you know it's the people who are victimized by this and you have a country torn between you know the these kind of super powers if i can still call them super powers i don't know that that term actually fits anymore but certainly powers seeking influence in the region and you know you have people left out in the in the cold there you know it's got to think about you in orlando and i find it really interesting looking at the narrative coming out of western media from november all the way to the present that they were looking you know praying for the people o

victoria nuland made those comments at a senate foreign relations committee hearing focusing on transatlantic security challenges. the crisis in ukraine and nato's expansion to this hearing is about one hour and a half. >> this hearing of the singapore relations subcommittee on european affairs will now come to order. i'd like to welcome everyone here today, and explained our situation very briefly. we are in a quorum call to try to figure out a path for with respect to vote on the floor of the senate. senator johnson i've managed to escape that quorum call but others of our colleagues are likely caught him before. we may be joined by a few others but wein decide to move forward with the hearing notwithstanding some of the activity on thetivi. floor. this is a hearing today on transatlantic security challenges in central andlenges eastern europe.. i'd like to welcome ouri would , witnesses today on our firstness panel. with two people who are noo thie strangers to this committee, iss assistant secretary of state victoria nuland and assistante secretary of defense derek chollet. on the second

. >> ifill: in washington, assistant secretary of state victoria nuland said there's no doubt the russians were directly involved in the unrest in eastern ukraine. and secretary of state john kerry spoke twice by phone with the russian foreign minister. optimism rose today among australian officials leading the search for that missing malaysian jetliner. that's after they picked up two more "pings" that may very well have come from the plane's "black box" recorders. lucy watson, of independent television news, reports from beijing. many of those on the plane were chinese citizens. >> the australian government is confident they are looking in the right place and daring to use positive words after analyzing the signals detected. >> i am optimistic that we will find the aircraft. the transmission was not of natural origin. we believe the signals to be consistent with the specification and description of a flight data recorder. >> the sheer depth of the search is the problem. on the surface the australian ship old shield listens for pings. at 1,250 feet down, it's as deep as the empire state b

victoria nuland, in particular. the policy world and information environment are very different than they were 40 years ago when i entered government service. the world changed dramatically just at a time from when i left the white house in 2001. i came to the state department in 2009. the challenge in today's world is not just about what we communicate about who we are. we are actually very good at that. but we need to do better in explaining what we do, and factoring public diplomacy and public opinion into the policymaking process. this is where i believe public diplomacy deficit exists. the new undersecretary for public diplomacy and public affairs talk yesterday at a swearing-in ceremony about the power of the story that we tell. is standing in the world challenged in some respects, but make no mistake, as rick said, we put everything together, who we are, what we stand for, what , theoduce, how we innovate opportunities we generate for our citizens another -- and others, the ideas that have come to define this

china visa be europe there's certainly are a lot of experts that agree with you just to be fair victoria nuland did that explain that that five billion that she was talking about she meant not on the recent protests in ukraine but in so-called spreading helping to establish democracy in this post soviet state since one thousand ninety one or so. god. you know it's been ongoing but i mean so this is what we call democracy. neo nazi elements helping to overthrow a democratically elected government i mean it's just. you know the fact that people get up in washington and say the still photos scary places the whole areas and you could just go to parity there are people where's my who's on in could you just comment on that i mean and you touched on a lot of. geo political moments where the u.s. clearly doesn't hide that it's involved much of the time halfway across the world so not exactly close to its borders per se what do you say to that why does the united states have to pursue democracy around the world doesn't have enough work at home. where most countries have enough work at home i can also th

and assistant secretary of state victoria nuland says the u.s. has invested five billion dollars in ukraine says nine hundred ninety one but insists none of that was to support my done you can keep across all developments in the ukrainian crisis with us here on r.t. international our online news team has a minute by minute set of coverage for you at r.t. dot com. the. portugal's economy is healing as it prepares to shake free of its bailed out shackles that optimistic outlook is from the international monetary fund are the latest numbers that look good as well we've got a well economic growth on the rise tourism exports also on the up and up though unemployment continue to falling just a little bit it certainly looks good on paper earlier i spoke about it with our to do farmer he's just returned from assignment in portugal those numbers sound good don't they but you have to remember that even if portugal does manage to clean exit from this bailout program next month it still has an awful lot of problems it's running a budget deficit of over four

what happened in benghazi that was the same the same person victoria nuland was involved in the bin ghazi cover up you have the countries of sovereignty at stake here we have a separatism in the east and washington says that russia is destabilizing ukraine i mean how can they say that with a straight face with a straight face a professional long. that's what we have john kerry plus air conditioned offices and no one is thinking about the human cost it actually looks like the west is trying to use ukraine in failure crane to purposely attack. thanks for sharing your friday with us who are now three international the u.s. army is getting ready to leave afghanistan for the most part but the withdrawal is proving to be far from easy all the minute tree hardware has to be removed the commission for fear it may end up in the wrong hands. and rest. we're talking right now probably at least twenty to thirty thousand people involved just simply in the breaking down of moving of equipment back to united states. it's the countdown to drawdown at the end of the year nearly all u.s. troops will leave

trying to regain control i mean there's no secret about the fact that state department official victoria nulandboasted that over you know since the fall of the soviet union america has pumped in about five billion dollars into the ukraine to try and peddle influence in that country so i don't think there's any doubt that washington has been meddling with the internal politics of the ukraine and continues to do so but i think this time they have miscalculated the wishes of the ukrainian people here to put the full force of military might or starting to at least on the protesters in the east we're already starting to hear of casualties were maybe also hearing of fatalities if this continues if it kicks off even more what's washington going to do what's washington going to do they're going to stand by. i think it's going to bottle it i think that they want to make a loud noise and try and intimidate people but i can't see that they have the power or the will really to intervene at this point as we saw as well with their misadventures across the middle east north africa of the last few years they'v

quality i know but you heard what victoria nuland said that was her by the way just in case they're trying to claim that we doctored the footage here she is again saying it on c.n.n. loud and clear. the united states has invested some five billion dollars in ukraine . ludicrous as it may sound there's plenty of governments and people across the globe who won't down for a second that the us doesn't invest money just for the fun of it but the most offensive accusation is this that we have made constant reference to any ukrainian opposed to a russian takeover of the country as a terrorist just like the article we couldn't find any examples but we did find this. police are trying to clear out the square as you can see a lot of people were going to be moving this way or that is oh that is a former senior policeman no hitting a somebody who's on the floor right the holy. fire very good they're moving in on the road. take a right it seems as if the scene is being called confrontation our reporters risk their safety and sometimes their lives not just in ukraine but all over the world to bring peop

gazi that was the same the same person victoria nuland was involved in the big ozzie cover up with hillary clinton the secretary of state and now she's involved in the scandal that's going on in ukraine so i mean what exactly is going on who is running the show and let's get a little honesty i mean your show puts forth the truth well i appreciate i appreciate it you know what mitch says is really spot on because you know you had the e.u. in the united states go in there shake up the place a legal coup you know we have the country's sovereignty at stake here we have a separatism in the east and washington says that russia is destabilizing ukraine i mean how can they say that with a straight face i mean the action they can say is the only people i can say with a straight face a professional liars and so we have a tory nuland and that's what we have john kerry and i like to touch upon all the divisions within ukraine i think it's actually even worse than east and west because if you look at the west they're divided amongst themselves you have the people who support the coup the people who are

this is an secretary of state victoria nuland and assistance. defense -- and assistant secretary of defense. on the second panel, we will hear from -- i will introduce them later. russia's invasion and illegal annexation of crimea has called into question one of the key assumptions and underpinnings of 21st century transatlantic security strategy, that russia no longer poses a security threat to the alliance and that the main challenges facing the allies emanate from beyond the euro atlantic region. the winding down of the afghanistan mission has led many to wonder if nato, which has been the cornerstone of transit lannett reliance, would cease to be -- of transatlantic reliance, would cease to be relevant. instead, russia's belligerence may serve to reinvigorate the alliance. nato has stood the test of time. mr. putin has ensured that it will continue to do so. the most immediate security challenge in europe is the presence of tens of thousands of troops amassed on russia's borders with ukraine. it is clear that resident putin plans to -- it is

if you know what the american said victoria nuland i think when we insisted on geneva agreement to beimplemented in full beginning it was the liberation of the buildings and he gave she said those buildings are legal it because the key if authority is issued license to the people who are who occupied these buildings and there are no legal legal or with us a little. illegally present and in those building it's a it's absolutely unbelievable that they can seriously put forward such arguments but so you're saying the. agreement that was twenty first have said february by the western powers was kind of ignored by those so signed up and now you're saying there jimmy way agreement with us and bring it. art strictly so what's the point of all this agreement if you can't come to a solution a practical solution to this is the point of trying to justify the red room and was to have young macos side not to. meet him self not to use police which should. meet him self not to clear the state of emergency which he did and basically that was an act of capitulation every sink. he could be that himself

topics for months now and we come across people that are just baffled they've never heard of victoria nuland have never heard about snipers in kim they've never heard about yulia timoshenko saying the russians should be killed they've never heard these things in these people are not stupid we wouldn't bring them on the program but they've never heard these things or they thought they were just very minor things my point is that you know the us and its allies can't see how other people see the world you're asking a question that are often asked myself and it's beyond my competence to answer i would say this again evoking my age i remember the time when there were so-called wise men and women who urged the president of the united states and the congress to see both sides of any story even if it involved the soviet union there's an old american at age there are two sides to every story and to understand stand the other side you have to walk in the other person's shoes a bit try as an intellectual exercise that's an obligation in my judgment for policymakers who may control the fate of the world

host: the comments on victoria nuland, i will not repeat what she said, but the "guardian" is writing it. is that implemented -- to the larger european community? guest: i say what you are saying, and i do not put any seriousness and i being a chris is a more diverse is it between the u.s. and european union. these are people who are working very hard, diplomats try to get their jobs done, an effort by the u.s. to bring the u.n. in, and in a presumably private conversation, saying come on, we have to do this anyway, who in their right mind thinks that european diplomats don't say that about the u.s. when they are talking to each other? and who really cares? host: let's go to carol joining us from a san rafael, california with her kurt volker. caller: hi. setting aside russia's contentions, i want to look at the u.s. intentions through president obama. he went to europe with an agenda , i believe, just to resurrect his international standing and even his standing at home, and he was greeted by europe, which is very involved in their own certain problems in europe, and especially german

particularly with victoria nuland is captured voicemail where she's just outright trying to become the puppet master and install a fake dictator in ukraine it seems as though this u.s. multi decade empire building story might be heading to its end game your thoughts. well you know it's i'm trained as an historian and i'm a journalist it's hard for me to project a future i would say to this story out today that the united states is still the global leader and military expenditures you know during the next four to six military budgets combined i think when you spend a lot of money that the united states spends on military it's hard to bet against that i mean if you're if we're talking about stock market investments or handicapping declawed in these markets in the future united states has some staying power but i think what we're seeing here is what some people call a multiple polar world so it's hard to say i think what you do see here with what is happening with russia and also the power that china has over the u.s. economy with its. use through debt and control of production consumer g

has shown well you know when you hear jay carney the white house spokesperson or john kerry or victoria nuland they have said such outlandish things in the last days and weeks and months that you know you can hardly take them seriously anymore you have to look at the fact that the authorities as they presently exist came into power. the back of a right wing paramilitary. displace the elected government there they are their government is reportedly in considerable amount of disarray but now they're sending troops in there shooting going on that's not exactly restraint. now with me in the city as mark sobota senior lecturer in international relations and security studies at moscow state university thanks so much mark for being in the studio with us well first off i'd like to ask you how significant you think it is and that these armored vehicle crews have swapped sides ok well one individual unit swapping sides in itself is not very significant but it comes with a host of other reported events such as a refusal from alpha to attack earlier last week and other reported problems with commanding co

some western officials victoria nuland the american ambassador in kiev catherine ashton and the estonian foreign minister which makes it rather difficult for them to deny the involvement in the crisis so my question to you is rather the fact that those conversations are intercepted and there is a very high profile people really would expect that communication to remain secure or whether the fact that they were intercepted is a failure of the exposed side or rather a win for their political opponents well this new is getting around it was a dramatic embarrassment for those people whose telephone conversations were intercepted and exposed yes it showed that someone else and everyone's assuming it's russia but there's a limited number of countries that have got this capacity was listening but again this isn't true. we all know that everyone spies on everyone else and then when it comes to light. declare ourselves sure that anyone could be doing to us it's just part of the dome's in this situation the another country was able to intercept these conversations and then use them as a very well

despite the the warmongering coming out of washington the saber rattling from victoria nuland in the state department to try to maximize the confrontation there's a circle in washington that wants a new cold war that's just as blunt as it is and they're backed by the u.s. military industry their backsides a powerful powerful rich families. names like rockefeller and so forth and they fear that they're losing power when russia and china and the european union began cooperating in peaceful economic development then what who needs the united states or its its war machine and that's i think one of the key issues so there's no doubt that say for russia the tab so that would be a massive cause and consequences of that but russia fears ukraine might start siphoning off guys bound for the e.u. it's not a serious danger to think as course it is they did that in the past. it's a danger but. the problem is if the e.u. put its full diplomatic and economic weight not just a moral weight on a diplomatic solution formed from between ukraine and russia. the russian prime minister of iraq recently sa