well that's true i don't think there victoria nuland planned to break up the country if she thought that the east of ukraine would just submit to the new government the new government would be a pro western and then. the western media said we should all take their deep breath and then wait until your grain becomes completely anti russian and of course victoria nuland just like john kerry they don't know if lein about ukraine the real picture was much more complicated so when the whole thing degenerated into a civil war they had no clue how to react so they used all the methods you know just blame everything on russia and the media is trying to forewarn this line you know they're looking for russian agents inside ukraine their interview in their mind on the activist but sometimes you get very funny situations for example i'm going to read to you know an associated press report. on the activist who named our listeners of course kyra they asked her about the events in the east of ukraine and she says. these people i mean the russian speaking population of eastern ukraine if they want to lea

elements surrounding him in that government right now i mean if he hostage more to them or to victoria nuland or they will or those. groups all on one side because you know you have put it he said this in the past you know he's agreed to things that's right we'll get a cease fire in place we'll talk to these people and then within twenty four hours after a phone call apparently from washington he's you know a bombing civilians again in eastern ukraine i mean who is part of shank oh is he a man that you could do business with. i think he is alternately going to go partly where the money's coming from and i know the u.s. is more than willing to you know they've authorized funding for ukraine military so we can expect that to keep happening the u.s. doesn't want to see a this resolved they want to see ukrainian military victory because they're short sighted and they don't understand the realities on the ground. you would hope that you know at times it seems like he's listening to merkel who wants more decentralization which may be which may be the you know the best most optimal outcome but again

reaction here and i think the cooler heads in europe will be in realize it will why is it worth it victoria nuland is wet dream i mean is it really worth it to the west to have such a bad relationship with a country that is has exposed express zero aggression towards anyone russia is a contract status quo power if you know anything about the post soviet history go ahead joshua yes i would agree with exactly with what jim say because i think we reached a point where angela merkel realized that if she faces massive unemployment because of the sanctions and this situation is the tearing so many lives are lost and in addition to that we're moving beyond any kind of solution what kind of solution is this to attack civilians it's pretty clear that she's going to have to think of that that this didn't make sense this was the wrong bet and it didn't bring us any good solutions at all. of course it's always easy to blame russia just because the united states also blamed us for interfering and the referee for not interfering in the referendum and the guns in the nets so the u.s. was saying that they should

i think i'm sure the american knows better than that because i think she's a bit smarter than victoria nuland you know she's proving it here you know it's very interesting is that russia gets blamed for doing doing something or not doing enough it's quite remarkable it's a no win situation. well i still hold for the better but i would again say about mrs merkel that i will not put too much hope on her because it was interesting she said she wanted i called some measures that wouldn't hurt russia. wasn't it her who just three weeks ago initiated the e.u. sanctions against russia which led to say tional food imports from the european union so unfortunately mrs merkel mr opportunity to become a real savior all over europe in this situation well what is going on now is just absolutely terrible because we hear for the first time since the beginning of the crisis not only from their ukrainian media but also from the british and the american media that russia has invaded their only a factual basis is that nine russian soldiers were arrested by the ukrainian security service all the border between ru

ukraine ok having some kind of trilateral trade agreement which perfect sense you know but you know victoria nuland wanted everything it wanted ukraine it wanted need to expand everything maximalist all the time can we go back to november and somehow and go back and see if that can work well we can all worse do better than we do now because what has been going on until now was just unacceptable and i completely agree with george when it was initially on a quote which was suggested trial a trial negotiations in november last year if it had been accepted by the e.u. put in accepted it things would have been totally different right now and i agree with jim that the biggest costs are for the western community of nations because remember what we did not cancel this association agreement with the you here just postponed it and he said that it would cost you crane one hundred sixty billion euros in fact of course he would be satisfied with a smaller compensation but the you didn't give him a single penny the result was that now that you has already paid much more than has been demanding because of the war

topics for months now and we come across people that are just baffled they've never heard of victoria nuland they've never heard about snipers in kiev they've never heard about yulia timoshenko saying the russians should be killed they've never heard these things in these people are not stupid we wouldn't bring them on the program but they've never heard these things or they thought they were just very minor things my point is that you know the us and its allies can't see how other people see the world. you're asking a question that are often asked myself and it's beyond my competence to answer i would say this again invoking my age i remember the time when there were so-called wise men and women who urged the president of the united states and the congress to see both sides of any story even if it involved the soviet union there's an old american at age there are two sides to every story and to understand the stand the other side you have to walk in the other person's shoes a bit try as an intellectual exercise that's an obligation in my judgment for policymakers who may control the fate of

the west of the country but the elephant missing from the room if you will is john kerry and victoria nuland because it is the brother family that will be beautiful in the tendons from brussels. to see and be adjourned for here is being drawn up in washington d.c. it is not in the interest of moscow to prolong this conflict but at the same time the hard line from kir of supported unfortunately by some of the worst elements in the country such as the right sector. and the slow border party do not bode well for a political solution if there is the readiness in the west to prompt here in the direction of a political solution we indeed would have it in me. and every move was analyzed during prudent and partial encodes first encountered two months ago in france and today will be much the same here on r.t. will be very closely following the discussions all throughout the day. now two more journalists were detained in ukraine they've now been released they were correspondent and photographer for a crimea based newspaper unfortunately there's still no word though on the missing photo journalist andr

don't see that at all but having very good cordial relations and eight counterbalance to the west victoria nuland in her elk are in a hurry. because they know they have to get this full spectrum dominance domination very very quickly it was talking about a decade or if the game is over yeah i think they're definitely you're correct that they are in a race against the clock because they see that there is these inevitable forces that have to do with the shifting of global capital flows from west to east which you could point its roots as early as you know the bretton woods agreement this is kind of the drawing in of china into the global economy these are inevitable but and this will inevitably have a result on the u.s. is last remaining real source of. power over the rest of the world which is its conventional military dominance and this is fading now i disagree that the united states does not recognize the multipolar world they've recognized that for a while the national intelligence council in two thousand and eight put out the global trends twenty twenty five report which was all about analyzin

itself we've seen this firmly in the nineteenth century all the way up to the present looking at victoria nuland testimony to congress i mean it's almost like it teaching english is like a small pupil that can be saved from its parents. oh absolutely and i think there's a kind of smug superiority complex going on here was the kind of racism really we saw this time of the chilean picks where sort of photo left liberals got all their high horses and castigated russia over the gay rights law which russia had posse before forgetting the fact that britain had a very similar law up to two thousand and two or three and we had that passed by the such a government. and in fact forgetting the fact that many western allies in many western ally countries homosexuality is actually a criminal offense so there was this kind of smug superiority over russia which i believe is quite racist actually it's the and we see this also in the patrol of the rebels in the east of ukraine because when you read about them or or hear about them in the british media they're often portrayed as these to the wild savages. people

the west of the country but the elephant missing from the room if you will is john kerry and victoria nuland because it is the brother family that there will be european throwing in attendance from brussels where is the real policy and the agenda for fear is being drawn up in washington d.c. it is not in the interest of moscow to prolong this conflict but at the same time the hardline from kier of supported unfortunately by some of the worst elements in the country such as the right sector. and the suborder party do not bode well for a political solution if there is the readiness in the west to prompt in the direction of a political solution we indeed could have it in me. to want journalists who were detained in ukraine have been released they were a correspondent and photographer for crimea based newspaper unfortunately there's still no word on the missing photo journalist andrei standen he disappeared in ukraine three weeks ago numerous campaigns where his weenies have been held across the globe backed by calls from you when russia and international human rights organizations were pacing u

in the west of the country but the elephant missing from the room if you will is john kerry in victoria nuland because if he is the brother family that there will be european throwing in attendance from brussels where is the real policy and be adjourned for fear is being drawn up in washington d.c. it is not in the interest of moscow to prolong this conflict but at the same time the hardline from kier of supported unfortunately by some of the worst elements in the country such as the right sector and. the suborder party do not bode well for a political solution if there is the readiness in the west to prompt in the direction of a political solution we indeed could have it in minsk. every move was analyzed during putin and poroshenko is first encountered two months ago in france and today will be much the same here when r.t. international will be very closely following the discussions all throughout the day . for the meantime here on our team international to more journalists who were detained in ukraine have been released they were a correspondent on photographer for a crimea based newspaper a

the west of the country but the elephant missing from the room if you will is john kerry and victoria nuland because it is rather funny that there will be european attendance from brussels whereas the real policy and the agenda for here is being drawn up in washington d.c. it is not in the interest of moscow to prolong this conflict but at the same time the hardline from kier of supported unfortunately by some of the worst elements in the country such as the right circuit or. the suborder party do not bode well for a political solution if there is the reading this in the west to prompt gear in the direction of a political solution we indeed could have it in me. military officials in kiev say that they have detained a dozen russian soldiers who crossed into ukraine at night a source in russia's defense ministry has reportedly confirmed that they went over the border by mistake during a routine patrol paullus leary's in the region while the head of kiev security services says that he does not believe that these soldiers crossed over into ukrainian territory accidentally but rather that it was

the opposition bring in isis into the dialogue with the government this is like what what the victoria nulanddid in ukraine back last november with the i can swear protest to bring in the new your nazi to the openness into a dialogue with the on a covert elected government so the obama administration has not been at all honest in its dealings with with the iraqi government in the past certainly wasn't honest with the world on the justification for the bombing and the inflation of iraq in two thousand and three the weapons of mass destruction i was i was actually going to touch a little bit on that unagi you know that war was dubbed the invasion of iraq as a dumb war why is it then that they getting bay involved again i think it very much has to do with oil but the control of oil and the control of oil is a. pentagon and cia. wall street priority not because the united states needs the oil for its own economy there is no economy virtually left in the united states but the united states needs to control other nations independently made in bilateral agreements china and iraq russia with. various

people remember ambassador pyatt of course for a controversial leaked conversation he had with victoria nuland the assistant secretary of state for european and your asian affairs take a listen. i can't remember if i told you this or if i only told washington this that when i talked to jeff feltman this morning he had a new name for the un guy robert serry did i write here that this morning so that. he's now gotten both serry and bunky loon to agree that serry could come in monday or tuesday ok so that would be great i think to help glue this thing and have the u.n. help glue it and you know the e.u. a reminder that there's an ongoing crisis in ukraine started off in the streets of kiev during protests back in the winter. as the fighting in eastern ukraine continues to escalate over a thousand people have taken shelter in a refugee camp across the russian border in kosovo artie's ronco surround has the stories of those who are seeking a fresh start away from the violence. the key here was twelve years old when the second world war began and the grandmother remembers that time vividly but you p

government where they couldn't do a lot of harm now they're loose now they're run all over the place victoria nuland talks about yachts the fellow who became prime minister and you would think that once that once that intercepted telephone call appeared on you tube the first about the end of it would think it would disqualify ray we're out of time but thanks so much for a deal since queues are always always fall in our room ago. there's a new sheriff in town and no it's not john wayne more on that new sheriff and why it's so dangerous and it's deleting. it's technology innovations all the developments around russia we've got the future covered. i would rather ask questions to people in positions of power instead of speaking on their behalf and that's why you can find my show larry king now right here on our t.v. question more. join me. for that impartial and financial reporting on the terri interview and much. only on bust and only on. in screwed news the fight against corporate personhood and money in politics has hit a roadblock in the golden state california activists were ecstatic earlier this s

government where they couldn't do a lot of harm now they're loose now they're run all over the place victoria nuland talks about yachts the fellow who became prime minister and you would think that once that once that intercepted telephone call appeared on you tube the first about the end of it you would think it would disqualify we're out of time but thanks so much for making deals and it was always always fall in our room ago. coming out there's a new sheriff in town and no it's not john wayne more on that new sheriff and why it's so dangerous things not speaking. dramas the truth be ignored. stories others do a few posts and noticed. things is changing the world. the old picture of states. from around the globe. i marinate joining me. for an impartial and financial reporting commentary interview and much much. only on best and only on. in scrutiny is the fight against corporate personhood and money in politics has hit a roadblock in the golden state california activists were ecstatic earlier this summer when governor jerry brown announced that proposition forty nine a measure asking congress to o