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, former deputy special envoy for middle east peace in the state department under president obama, and victoriaiddle east and north african affairs in the trump administration. thank you both for talking to us. i want to ask you both at the same question to begin with. how much of a moment ofjeopardy do you think this is? it a moment of 'eopardy do you think this is? , . , a moment of 'eopardy do you think this is? , ., , ., ., , ., this is? it is a very dangerous and unsettled moment _ this is? it is a very dangerous and unsettled moment and _ this is? it is a very dangerous and unsettled moment and all- this is? it is a very dangerous and i unsettled moment and all americans can agree on that. any time we move this way is a major blow to the country. i think the question is what we do now? we have been hearing for the last months that there would be serious repercussions if americans were killed and obviously we are not in the room for those decisions being made right now but my recommendation is a needs to be a very strong reaction and it makes it clear that the biden administration are seri

victoria nuland. about personnel being policy and it seems like there is mrs. newland who crops up whenever we have a foreign policy, under the george w. bush administration, under the obamaministration. she has a way of hanging around despite changes in republican or democratic administrations. it will be interesting hearing about the kind of power and influence someone like that wields how that person is able to maintain influence in government. there are other who might be in similar positions as well. you can comment on her or on other figures you might be seen as being important within the deep state. justin: anybody want to --? victoria: it is a problem. particular for republicans coming in the way trump without a terribly orderly transition and without a deep stable or bench of folks cleared and ready to go in. for somebody like newland, she has a very broad bipartisan base in washington. that is very powerful. she has folks from both sides calling in successive administrations that she should be retained. there is an argument that people who been working on these problems know them intimately and therefore will add value. we found largely that was not the case. th

victoria wland. we talked about personnel being policy. that seems like there is a bad penny who pops up whenever w ve a foreign policy crisis under the george w. bush of administration under the obamablican or democratic administrations. i would be interest to hear about the power and infence somewhat like that wields and how that person is able to maintain influence in government. i have named names bheviously ot be in similar positions as well. you can comment on victoria or perhaps on other figures who 1@gh important what many people call the deep state. >> anybody want to? >> i was there. it is a problem. particul way trump did without a terribly orderly transition and without a deep bench of folks cleared ready to go in. newland, she has very broad bipartisan base here in washington. that is very, very powerful she has folks from both sides calling in successes administrations that shobe reta. there is an argument the people who have been working on these problems know them intimately d therefore will add value. i think we found it largely that was not the case. [laughter] that's not a trend that's■ not value added on a number of different topics. and she is far from the only