our neighborhood is made up of many victorian and edwardian houses. this cottage has historic value both to the city and to our neighborhood. it should be preserved. other vintage houses in the neighborhood have been remodeled in the original was preserved, thus contributing to the enigmas of the neighborhood. it was our understanding at the time that in the 1979 remodel project it was allowed to be built 12 feet into the green zone as a trade off in order to keep the victorian cottage intact. we remember this well because there was strong opposition to the intrusion. there has been no other exterior construction on this site. we find it difficult to comprehend why the planning department to take a position that the victorian cottage has been too compromised to warrant historical value. four-level houses have been denied by city planners. developers have been persuaded to not apply for a four-level renovation on this block because it is not in continuity with the rest of the neighborhood. the 900 block of elizabeth street is one of the steepest in the

save the existing victorian. the fight is far too large for the character of the neighborhood and for the steep incline on the hill. the design is not in keeping with similar homes and by not accommodating the light well on the first floor of 936, the plan is thoughtless and cruel to a house that is truly historic. thank you. president miguel: additional speakers in favor of the dr? >> i am doug wilkins. i am presenting here as someone who does not live at 976 elizabeth street but a renovated it. i have done development on the street. i thought that was the best way to discuss this. i should point out that before we did our development at 976, we went through six steps of talking with the neighborhood to have numerous meetings and let them look at our additional sketches. we put a model together to seek their input. that project never went through discretionary review. it had total buy in from the neighborhood. let us talk about steepness. this is a very steep street. how steep is it? it is almost as steep as bal

this is what remains of the victorian college -- a victorian cottage. the rest of it is ugly construction. it has not been very well cared for. it meets some renovations, but it should not be destroyed. they set it on fire. then they power washed it and painted it. there is the door to their base then and there is the light well window.

many victorian buildings is floot roofs. on the street there's many. >> in this instance given the fact that it is sticking up beyond -- beyond it, it is somewhat ameal rate that is by having the pitch. >> i think you need to have the gabled roof. the problem with the building, it is big and boxy. it just really stands out on a very near row street, 29 feet which is a very, very -- you know, small street by its standards. we policies about -- about heights of buildings and protecting alleyways. that's one big thing. also the street slopes and you're going to be taller than the building uphill. the penthouse and everything on top. it is a huge enormous building in the context of much smaller and shorter buildings. it is not so much -- if it was just the fourth floor, that would be one thing but then the penthouse on top makes it look giant. and then the issue on a brand through building is exactly. it is a stand ashed lot size is 25 by 100 feet. if you had an unusual lot size, it would be -- i would napped but because it is n

are well-deserved victorian buildings. these were part of the commercial district of supported the residential area and this is not discuss the impact on this work of building. furthermore, they have template is the impact that this will have on the street. this ignores the fact that these are all the same scale and mass as the other residential buildings. the proposed project would put a huge facade on the street. this will dominate the historic district. this new building will become the future of the street. this was some kind of the committee separated but this is not the case. liberty hill was a symbol community. in each, the project would more definitively terminate the historic boundary. would it means is that this would be walled off from valencia street and from all of the historically complementary buildings on valencia's street. this proposed building would dominate those of the historic commercial district. this was not addressing the infirm and the impact that will be at a neighborhood. please reject it. >> th

this is what remains of the victorian college -- a victorian cottage. the rest of it is ugly construction. it has not been very well cared for. it meets some renovations, but it should not be destroyed. they set it on fire. then they power washed it and painted it. there is the door to their base then and there is the light well window. this is another window. it throws everything off. in 1979, the cottage was preserved because of the historical influence. six years ago, the planning department said that you cannot have four levels next door. i have got a few friends with me. they said that we were the only ones complaining. as you can see, i am not here by myself. >> are there any other speakers are in favor? into the mic. >> i am not very comfortable speaking in public. >> name? >> my name is bruce smith. i went to high school in dallas lyell. i love san francisco neighborhoods. -- in galileo. i love san francisco neighborhoods. i would normally say that is the property owner's rate to do what they wish with their property. there is a line when you st

one of the reasons that we moved here was because of the victorian architecture. we love the feel of the neighborhood. when we met the neighbors and we saw the condo, this was a place that we wanted to raise our family. we want you to consider the design of the proposed construction. we take great pride in the architecture of the neighborhood of our home. we want to maintain that. we are very proud of that. in addition to the design, the size of the proposed project will completely blocked all of our sunlight into our building. we ask that you consider this in making your decision. i want to thank you for your time and to point out that we have probably about another 20 neighbor is in support of this. we have a fantastic group here this evening they had to go home and attend to their families. the blue dots per all of those that are in support of our request. there read it is the single support of the construction. i would like to point that out, and thank you for your time and i hope that he will consider our request. >> good evening, commissioners. i am a native

the project showed no respect for the victorian enclave, completely incompatible in your face. it is an insult to the neighborhood. at the very most this evening, i hope you will -- insist on the removal of the fourth floor and i would hope that the decks would go too. thank you. additional speakers in favor of the d.r. requesters? >> president miguel, the commissioners. >> thank you for giving us the opportunity to speak in front of you. my name is sammy. i live on 51 scott street. i'm at the bottom of lloyd street, a -- i'm a house away from the proposed construction. it is a four-story building with a penthouse, roof decks and -- on a very narrow and very steep street. if i play -- they show either side of the street. it will rob the neighborhood. it will rob the character by mass and also by stein. i am directly affected by this building as you will see through these pictures. this is the view of my backyard right now. look through the light and to the sky. and this is -- what it will look like. so, i won't take a lot of your time. we know it is getting late. i'm a banker,

if it is a traditional house, edwardian, victorian, certainly. but not just everyday ordinary home depot crown molding. probably something in little bit nicer, more traditional. but i think the contemporary -- in the last 10 or 20 years, you probably want to consult with an interior designer before you slap of a molding. >> i suggest an architect. these are people who are trained to look at the appearance and make decisions. but i have seen it to great advantage, especially in the older buildings, victorian and edwardian period >> i agree with you to go with a professional. but is there a particular group? another list in the yellow pages and all that. for the exterior, you talk about the curb appeal, something like windows. where do i find a list of these people, without having to trouble a realtor who is maybe just interested in selling it? >> i think in that, just to address if different ways, you might want to get a couple different opinions. it does not take long. you might want to get an opinion from a realtor, even though they may just be

nobody is asking you to design an artificial victorian. if you could work it out with the neighbors, hopefully we wouldn't even have to see it and you could resolve that. that would be ideal. >> olague? >> yeah. again, it is what everything was saying. i don't need to see a gabled roof and mock -- what do you call the windows. bay windows. that's not what i'm -- whatever. i think work with the -- with the architects and maybe -- that's good. >> commissioner antonini: i'm not locked in with the three floors. it would need to be something that blends in. you could go through neighborhoods in san francisco and see different architectural styles and see massing, that is similar and even though one is a little higher but because of the roof treatment that is are similar and because of the lines of these buildings that are similar, even though they may come from different periods, and be 134 what different, the massing is similar. and i think that's where you would look at it and say, yes, that's taller. but it seems to sort of flow with the pat

my own statement here is that we are honored to own a beautiful victorian home on a beautiful street and consider ourselves to be stewards of the treasure. as you consider the plan in question, we urge you to who look closely at this. these can only be integrated possibly with the change the codes this. the proposed property plan does not protect or integrate the liberty hill's historic district. my neighbor outline specific ways that this is true. thank you very much for your attention and consideration. >> thank you. >> ladies and gentlemen, my name is barbara russell, a miami native san franciscan. i've spent most of my life here or just half a block away. i enjoy life here. i raised my son here. rooftop living areas are foreign to me. there are only a few in the area and neighbors have found them unacceptable. this is a new way to live but i do have questions. this is 8 or nine months out of the year. this is a family-friendly building. can i take an active-t rolled and play on a rooftop to. where does the dog go to eliminate? how many families continue this at the same time if t

we have got a classic victorian style home. you love the curb appeal of this house? >> look at that, that's a nice house, you just want to know you're going to get in there and be happy. this is 30 minutes from omaha. this is an old house that sits on the crest of the hill, surrounded by gardens and open fields, this is a house that was going to be torn down by developers, but the neighbors rallied around it and saved the house and aim glad they did. it's got a treasure trove of details in all of the rooms, those nice bay windows, stained glass. wood beam ceiling, that staircase is hand crafted. what's charming on to up of that staircase is a little bench to sit around. >> victorians hard to maintain. >> they're more expensive to maintain because they've got a lot of wood trim on the outside so it costs more just to keep it pretty. >> in wasilla, alaska, the home of sarah palin, this is a spacious shall lay. >> it's a popular style out there in alaska, it's on 1.4 wooded acres on a beautiful lake called cotton wood. the owner honestly on this one, i can't believe the

types of trees, birds, and flowers, so the reason i bought the house is that i seek other beautiful victorian houses. this project would impact my view looking north from the outside of my home and remove some of the greenery, which can be seen when you look down on the neighborhood of backyards. i have been a tour guide in san francisco for 15 years and served on the board, and i do walking tours of mission district, showing people the beautiful architecture and murals and our great food as well, and it is a real shame they do anything to remove these one-of-a-kind buildings, which are really unique to san francisco, especially the leafy streets, a little quiet back alley, and it is one of people's favorite places reaching my personal street. it is a unique narrow lane, which gets more bicycles than cars, and even though there are some examples of modern architecture on the corners, in the middle of the block, those maintain free standing side yard classic houses. that is all i have to say, and i recommend you vote against the current plan. >> thank you. >> my name is a meal. -- emile. this

it seemed obvious to us that the entire block of valencia's street is lined with the victorian and edwardian buildings. we were kind of alarm that to the explanation. this is the block. this has many intact buildings. the southern end it is mostly edwardian and 1920's. this sort of forms and cluster. this is the banquette castro and 18th. -- this is the bank at castro and 18th. this is very popular but a little bit new york but still quite old.

anyone who has lived in victorians know that there are a lot of restrictions, and it is a difficult situation to accommodate to some of the modern things that we expect, and i think it is a reasonable solution the way they have proposed it. commissioner sugaya: there is never one architectural solution in this case or in any case. i am comfortable with commissioner moore's motion and my second. from the historic district's standpoint, i guess the question is, at one. -- at what point do we say, we have done 15 of these, but now we have upset the whole character of the district. so there is no environmental review at this point, but there is an ongoing cumulative effect. that isn't exactly what we're talking about, but that situation could arise at some point. commissioner moore: i am not talking to the subject of the historic preservation, but i would observe that the the history of the bloc has a pattern where three or four adjoining buildings sit on the property line. in that cemetery, they utilize the side yard of one, as a benefit to both. now as the person whose property is a side, if th

importance to her is the dichotomy of san francisco architecture, and juxtaposition of the older victorian structure in the contemporary city. she is strong from the inspiration as well as from the fauna and flora of san francisco. in this slide, you see the beginnings of the concept work she has been providing to the transbay for a rich tapestry of color. we cannot wait until it opens. it is exciting. we will have hummingbirds, flowers, artifacts, in this wonderful floor that will be seen in the new transit center. another artist that we commissioned is jenny holzer who has worked at the broad trade center. she works with led lighting. there will be some words and sentences from some great artists in history. here is a look of what it looks like in the day. in the evening as well. another artist that we have commission is james carpenter. he will bring light to shot alley. he will be -- shaw alley. that will be one of the more active places in the retail station. his idea was to focus on the passage. two fields of luminous objects. a series of eliminated-sets and a series of 60 illuminate

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using the ingredients and techniques of the victorian age to recreate the finest dushs of that time.k a little bit about fannie farmer and what a giant figure looming figure she was in the cooking world of her time. >> she took over the boston cooking school in the early 1890s. she never went to college. that was the only thing she could do as a profession. and she took mary lincoln's boston cooking cool cookbook, revised it, updated it, in 1896 said i'll put up $3,000, i'll fund the book, so she retained the rights. and it took off. >> it was best-seller year ap year. >> 400,000 copies by her death. >> so what gave you the idea to go back 100 years in time, or more, and say let's try and make a meal, a great meal out of her cookbook? >> well, the concept of the time was she traveled back in time. you can read the newspapers like the boston globe cookbook. you just read a cookbook you don't get it. you've got to cook it. her house in boston, we got a big old coal cook stove, 57 inch stove, we cooked everything on a coal cook stove. >> just as you would have cooked it back in the day.

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advised the survey author to include character-defining features to the specific shotwell street victorian that, before it gets adopted by hpc. those are, one, destaffed houses in open site and rear yards, two, to protect trees and vegetation, and, three, to protect retaining walls. matt weintraub agreed to these matt weintraub agreed to these features, and plans to include these revisions. since the proposed project next door do mine at 640-642 shotwell includes plans to eliminate many of these features, such as the open side yard and trees and detached nature of the property. we trust you will take this new information into account as you review plans for that project. thanks very much for your time. president miguel: thank you. is there additional general public comment? if not, general public comment is closed. vice president olague? vice president olague: i just wanted to mention that i think i am familiar with the site that miss hester is mentioning because i was contacted also by some of the neighbors about this lot in bernal heights several years ago. it is a really awkward locatio

aunt jemima pancake mix came around jars and canned foods came around victorians go this is great. some capers. we had salmon fillets here which we'll start. we did this on the cook stove. we had to grill. we cooked them inside. >> right. >> i've been in your house. and i know that you've turned this book into a pbs special, which will air on a lot of pbs stations in november. and what was the impetus, you filled this stove with wood what was the temperature in the stove? >> we had an air conditioner, one air conditioner. it was 95 degrees by the air conditioners, about 120, to 130. you can see the faces were red. >> oh, my gosh. >> we overcooked. we got the stove up to 800 degrees at one time. >> can you imagine? >> we had a little problem. >> well we were trying to recreate this real-life episode of the times. >> meares what's interesting. back in that time a 12 course meal was not unusual. the middle class had money, the industrial revolution. women wanted to be creative in their homes. it wasn't just for the rich. so they actually sat down for three or four hours and ate 12 cou

you know, the world has changed since -- since -- in the last 100 years, we don't build the little victorian cot tanls anymore for a variety of -- variety of reasons, economic among them. it is also important to note that the -- that the med dal senior -- medical center nearby wants to establish a -- a world class stroke agreement center at that campus. and in order to do that, you also have to have some things happen around, you have to have a vibrant community that provides services that -- that are needed by people who live there and work at that facility. you have to have housing, quality housing that will attract that kind of top quality professionals who will be working at that facility and that is what this -- that's what this house will do. it'll be -- serve as an atwractive place for people that want to be at that -- that davies center. you know, i think -- generally we -- we, the concept that we can't go forward in san francisco was presented here. we have to sort of stop everything and freeze it in its place. that just doesn't fly in terms of the development that this city has to

she had an old victorian with an old brick foundation. she was absolutely convinced that the foundation had to be concrete and had to be concrete tomorrow. it was the first thing she did. she had different people, and look at the way she could do it. someone convinced her she should really be fit up and do it to the degree that she could add another unit or another living space down the line it see -- if she so chose. against my advice, she probably spent over $100,000 on pouring concrete down there. it sits there as an empty shell of a basement, which is sort of useless, really. i think you can get expert opinions from many different people, and the value question is a different question than an expert opinion on a particular subject. the value question is a question of the value of the property. is it over-improving? sometimes the contractor will tell you otherwise. the value is probably for a salesperson. >> that is something john wrote out. what value? value to you? value to the appraiser who comes in in one month? value is certainly

. >> traditionally in san francisco with victorian and edwardian, we had split bathrooms. a separate room for a toilet, and a second room for a tub. i have done literally dozens of projects where we try to combine them. the difference in today's baffin's is there is a lot more stuff. double vanities, soaking tub, showers, toilets, bedets, a lot more things going on. >> has this economic decline at the moment -- has that affected people's desire for complexity in stuff? have you seen a short-term move toward simplicity? >> yes and no. people still love their bathrooms. people think of them as an important room, as an investment for their home. yes, there is the gamut. some people are really just for function and utilitarian. some of them are large and lavish and everything in between. >> we are going to start looking at a couple of little vignettes of bathrooms. we can talk about fixtures and use that as a springboard for questions for our audience and discussions from some of the manufacturers we have here. let's start by looking at one right back here. this is a really in

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you'll find the old wood stair and they just said we don't want the -- because this is a beautiful victorian that have been butchered by stuccoing it. i've taken it off one of my houses and you'll find juned 'neath the front stairs, the old hand rail and they just covered it and stuccoed-over-over it and say now it looks like a modernized building. >> yeah. >> now you hire people to take the stuff off and put the gingerbread back on. >> could you talk about masonry coatings on wood-supported structures? >> a lot of terrazo has been applied directly to woodlanding and they will put down a membrane and then set it directly on top of that. just like your woof membrane wears out, and you have to replace your roof, maybe every 20 years, and one of the things you're doing when you put a new roof on, you put gravel or you paint it is to protect the membrane, which is an oil-based membrane from the sun. you're also trying to protect it from the water. and these terrazo surfaces that are set in a membrane, the water goes through it. concrete's porous. it's a sponge. and the membranes underneath don't

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